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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by kelseyfrog »

wildrhythms wrote: post #137
throwbadubadu wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I thought also the super spammy lol chat is AI generated as well, but it seems people find this really funny? I mean most of the ""jokes"" do not even have a bad punch line. That's the only thing I can lol at now, why wtf?

The chat collectively playing in to the nonsense is all part of the experience.

Yep, it's the TV equivalent of Blaseball, or Dwarf Fortress(DF). Given a sufficiently complex generator of event strips, framing[1] becomes a social activity. Blaseball saw the production of wikis[2], songs[3], and announcer recap[4] framings.

Likewise, DF wouldn't be the same without Boatmurdered[5] or any of the other story tellings that followed suit.

Conspiracy theorists follow the same pattern but applied to news and current events - a participatory group activity that discards the majority frame and synthesizes new frames under a different genre. Participants reuse people[6] and locations[7] but rewrite the script to become both playwrights and audience members to a substantially transformed alternate experience of reality.

Watchmeforever, is exactly this group mythmaking experience that pairs a random event strip with improvisational community framing that takes the meaningless output of AI-generated content and transforms it into a meaningful group experience.

EDIT: Also The Sims franchise to a large extent. Longtime players have a certain tendency to embellish in-game events beyond the game's pre-packaged framing in a way that produces deeper meaning than the novice/out-of-the-box-frame engages in. Certainly CK1/2/3 and countless others as well.

1. In the Erving Goffman sense

2. https://www.blaseball.wiki/w/Main_Page

3. https://thegarages.bandcamp.com/track/my-name-is-mike

4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diAHuUV2Meg

5. https://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/

6,7. People qua actors, and locations qua sets.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by [deleted] »

Waterluvian wrote: post #197
DonHopkins wrote: post #166

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The act of people who weren't around to watch Seinfeld when it originally aired complaining that it's just so overdone, unfunny, unoriginal, tired, cliched, or just like other shows, is called the "Seinfeld is Unfunny" trope. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunn... >"I don't know what the big deal with Hamlet is. It's just one famous saying after another, strung together by a moldy old plot."…

Thanks for sharing. I had no idea there was a term for it. As I reflect, I can see that with a lot of shows I thought were amazing. Humour evolves in such a fascinating way that a killer joke, even if it’s not context specific to an era, can stop being funny. I showed my wife a bunch of flash videos from my teenage years. She just stared and I slowly came to realize: they’re just not funny anymore. I remember thinkin…

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by SeanAnderson »

zzbzq wrote: post #153
flangola7 wrote: post #4

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The chat is other Twitch users. Which at this point in time should still be mostly humans.

On streams with high view counts I firmly believe they've never been majority human. They're not even AI, just dumb bots that spam whatever the other bots are spamming

If you have even the slightest actionable proof I am confident advertisers would pay large sums to know the actual reach of their ads. Until then your firm beliefs come across as conspiratorial.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by andy_xor_andrew »

> I went to the doctor the other day. The doctor asked if I have any hobbies.

> I said I liked watching movies.

> He said that's not a hobby.

> I said it is if you do it enough times.

I don't know if it was the flat delivery or the surrealness of it, but that had me actually laugh out loud.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by npc54321 »

fullshark wrote: post #201
01acheru wrote: post #196

I... I don't know what to say... this is so... man... wtf? I really have no words to express how uncanny it feels to watch that stuff, it seems alien television from the future and the comments seem a hive mind of bots. The experience is like seeing the apocalypse coming towards you from afar at a steady pace and there is nothing you can do to stop it. We need a big solar flare before it is too late. I don't even kno…

Creative endeavors are going the way of artisan crafts 100 years ago, mass produced by AI assembly lines, the rich will pay a premium for genuine artistry but the masses will digest this copy of a copy of a copy media.

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by shafyy »

oh_sigh wrote: post #171
shafyy wrote: post #106

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This is a reference to Seinfeld. When Jerry and George pitch their show to NBC, they pitch it is a "show about nothing". Which is almost like an recursion, because the show they pitch in Seinfeld is Seinfeld. So, Seinfeld is a show about nothing.

Seinfeld was about how comedians get their material, not nothing. Hence the opening, ending, and interspersed shots of Jerry doing standup related to the events in the show. Though, they somewhat dropped that in later seasons.

Yes of course it's not literally about nothing :-)

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by meroes »

urbandw311er wrote: post #86

Great. Now I’m going to be haunted by a recurring dystopian vision of the future in which all content (even broadcast TV) is pumped out this way to maximise profits. Humans won’t use their brains for creativity anymore. Instead, new ideas will be seeded deep inside a neural network somewhere, and our reactions will be monitored and used as one constant feedback loop. Until we are ultimately just sat drooling and gigg…

This is part a larger “fear” of mine. We never get to actual singularity because along the way AI is either good enough or we mislabel it to thinking we’ve reached the singularity when we haven’t. Or some other allure/consequence that isn’t immanently itself destructive (accidentally creating hostile Skynet is possible but outside this fear, this fear is more insidious). We think may we have the desire to reach AI singularity but I’m not convinced. We’re too selfish.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by saurik »

rjh29 wrote: post #128
saurik wrote: post #33

So, recently, I accidentally stumbled into an almost bottomless pit of romantic comedies on an amazon prime "channel" called PixL. It has a ridiculously large quantity of low-value sort-of-OK content that all kind of bleeds together if you squint. I watch a lot of TV/movies, and it is mostly something to deal with me feeling lonely (which is probably a bad thing to fix, actually: better I get so sad that I quit compu…

It's kind of what people can do already using their own imagination. You can imagine a set of characters and stories that goes on forever and stays the same. AI would just flesh it out with actual writing and visuals, but I'm not sure if it's that is a huge improvement.

I do not see how imagining a bunch of people is going to make anyone feel less lonely.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld runs 24/7 on Twitch

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Post by icepat »

Taywee wrote: post #23
chihuahua wrote: post #12

This is probably the first time I've encountered something where "It's so bad that it's good" makes sense to me. I could not stop laughing. The exterior shot with the Seinfeld-inspired music. The laugh track at inappropriate times. They talk about going to a sushi restaurant, and when they've finally agreed to go, they sit down and don't go anywhere. This is like the alien scientists who want to bring back humans aft…

The crappiness is unexplainably funny. Jerry speaking the cues in the comedy bits and saying "pause for applause", Elaine clipping through Jerry, George talking to the fridge. I lost it when it cut to an indoor shot with nobody in it for 2 minutes and then cut away.

I definitely enjoy them talking to empty rooms, and posed at awkward angles.
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