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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by fomine3 »

colonwqbang wrote: post #197
somehnguy wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely notice if my monitor runs at 60hz for whatever reason instead of 144hz, even while just doing desktop tasks. Have you used a 144hz screen for any significant period of time?

Just go to a place where they sell iphones and compare the 60 Hz to the 120 Hz model. Open the settings menu and just scroll up and down. The difference is so very noticeable. I don't know why people try to claim that it's imperceptible, or that you can't tell the difference between a 1080p and 4K display.

I'm 100% fan of high refresh rate on smartphone, because smartphone UI is aimed for scrolling forever. Difference between 60Hz vs 120Hz is night and day.

So then I replaced a PC monitor from 60Hz LCD to 144Hz 4K LCD, I expected such difference before buy. After setup, I can find difference but don't find much difference like smartphone. I don't scroll so much on bigger screen PC, and maybe I'm too used to Windows' crappy scrolling. Anyway my mouse has classic wheel so non-smooth scroll is fine unlike touchscreen/trackpad case. Mouse cursor isn't smooth but it's just that. Finally I bought second 60Hz 4K LCD after that because it's cheaper, it's fine.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by joombaga »

andreareina wrote: post #196
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

I have a 14” QHD laptop (framework) and it’s really awkward without fractional scaling. I don’t know that 20-25% more screen space would really fix that.

Agreed. Love the size and aspect ratio, I just wish it was a bit higher resolution so I could use 200% scaling.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by whateveracct »

doublepg23 wrote: post #163
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.

The Thelio is quite nice

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by fomine3 »

coder543 wrote: post #49
toast0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If 4k is 3840 × 2160, 1920 × 1080 is 2k, FYI

This is 100% correct. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution > Another resolution that is often referred to as 2K is 2560 × 1440 (1440p) however that is a common mistake in marketing[12] and is called QHD by the DCI. It is a mistake to refer to 2560x1440 as 2K. People calling 1080p "2K" is a pet peeve of mine. 2.5K is a more appropriate name for 2560x1440, if you want to use that naming convention, but I…

I'm upset for such people too. Chinese smartphone manufacturers tend to say it.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by coder543 »

coder543 wrote: post #49
toast0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If 4k is 3840 × 2160, 1920 × 1080 is 2k, FYI

This is 100% correct. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution > Another resolution that is often referred to as 2K is 2560 × 1440 (1440p) however that is a common mistake in marketing[12] and is called QHD by the DCI. It is a mistake to refer to 2560x1440 as 2K. People calling 1080p "2K" is a pet peeve of mine. 2.5K is a more appropriate name for 2560x1440, if you want to use that naming convention, but I…

> People calling 1080p "2K" is a pet peeve of mine.

Can’t edit now, but clearly I meant to say 1440p in this sentence, not 1080p.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by mmis1000 »

0xCMP wrote: post #47
driverdan wrote: post #6

Still only 1920x1080. Come on, give us decent resolution screens already!

Agreed. 1080 is probably a good proportion, but I'd prefer 4k resolution at 200% than native 1080.

I am a CJK user, and I can definitely say 4K at 200% is much more better than standard 1080p.

Standard 1080p only looks good for English alphabets. Complex Chinese characters like `國` looks blurry(or even s**tty) on that resolution. Reading chinese charaters on a hidpi monitor is really a much better experience.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by KennyBlanken »

p1necone wrote: post #201
aqfamnzc wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is 3:2 better?

The extra vertical space is better for reading stuff, and looking at code. It also allows for smaller laptops with the same usable screen space - they don't need to be as wide.

I think you have that backwards. Wider screen formats allow for a proper size keyboard (and speakers) without having to have a massive palm rest and very tall screen.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by m463 »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #8

Would it make sense to change the title? I read it to be about people who bought AMD-only laptops from System76, needing to return them to System76 for some reason.

that's what I interpreted it as too - I thought it was going to be about chip failures.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by hiyer »

INTPenis wrote: post #187
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

It might seem like nitpicking but I'm actually on your side here, as a consumer. It's been a struggle to find a 1440 AMD laptop, I have one that I'm happy with for travel. (Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Carbon Gen 6) I also don't want it to be too big, for travel, so numpad is out for me. The Slim 7 feels like a toy, but it's actually just very, very light, and made of plastic. It creeks, yes, but it's very, very light. This is…

Check out the Asus Rog zephyrus g14 [1]. I have the 2021 version (which is only FHD) and it's quite light and runs cool.

1. https://rog.asus.com/laptops/rog-zephyrus/rog-zephyrus-g14-2...

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by midoridensha »

malkia wrote: post #106
CoastalCoder wrote: post #8

Would it make sense to change the title? I read it to be about people who bought AMD-only laptops from System76, needing to return them to System76 for some reason.

Yeah... Imagine "Jedi Returns"

"The Return of the System76 AMD-only Laptop"
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