this + a good TUI is likely to get me to subscribe to spotify premium. Does anyone know if there's a good TUI front end to YouTube music or Apple Music to save me an additional subscription (I already sub to Apple Music via a family share thing and Youtube Music because of Youtube Red/Premium).
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#212Could someone please explain to me why this is cool/useful? I'm not a huge spotify user. Is the idea that I can set up the daemon on a networked computer in my home and then have it stream to speakers around my house?
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
> However Spotify doesn't agree. My naive assumption is that Spotify would love to, but the record labels don't agree.
Qobuz and Tidal both have developer friendly APIs. You can absolutely build your own client. Roon will index either or both of them with your local mp3 library. It decorates with third-party metadata services, and will stream hi-res to almost any hardware device you can throw at it.
> Qobuz and Tidal both have developer friendly APIs.
Last time I looked, Tidal didn't offer a public API. They were 100% closed and developer unfriendly. You had to "borrow" their client ID for use with reverse engineered clients. Has this changed? If so can you link to the docs please?
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#214Could someone please explain to me why this is cool/useful? I'm not a huge spotify user. Is the idea that I can set up the daemon on a networked computer in my home and then have it stream to speakers around my house?
Its an unofficial Spotify client for nix-based systems.
I suppose its cool if you run a riced nix environment, and you only want command-line tools. Or its cool for people who don't want to run the dedicated app or browser version.
In my experience, having tried a few different clients in the past, they sometimes fail due to changes on Spotify's side. I don't know if that situation has changed in the past few years.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, but it can. And already does. Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models. A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often…
Mastodon is not an “open garden” and can easily, if not more easily, be as arbitrarily administered as any of the social media platforms you’ve mentioned. Each servers admin can and have cut off access to other nodes. See what’s happening with journa.host as an example.
What's wrong with what happened to journa.host?
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
So I need to purchase the MP3's in order to do this? Then I need to spend time on other web sites for music discovery? This would work if you almost never venture outside of your existing music catalog. If that's you, it's probably also a better financial decision to just purchase your own music in stead of 'renting' it. According to my 'Wrapped' I listened to 4600 different songs this year, from 3000 artists. Most o…
> So I need to purchase the MP3's in order to do this? Aye, aye. > Then I need to spend time on other web sites for music discovery? One cost of cultivating tastes, as opposed to being fed by a recommendation algorithm, is the risk of possibly hearing music you might not like, as well as the time required spent doing so. There are open-source music recommendation algorithms but having survived radio payola I consider…
> Aye, aye.
Honestly, at about €1 per MP3 (which is on the low end, looking at Beatport), I couldn't afford listening to the amount of different music I do now.
> fed by a recommendation algorithm
As opposed to being fed by the maintainer of some web site?
> I may have a higher tolerance for my tastes not being pandered to
> Seems to me that you are doing precisely that.
> What is the price point that makes piracy moral, then?
To me, your entire comment feels incredibly snobby. It's like you see people who use streaming services as lesser people, just because they use a different way to listen to music. It also feels like that opinion is based on an incredibly limited assumption of how people use streaming services.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a problem inherent with walled garden social media. Their garden, their rules. Instead of trying to police behavior we don't like in those walled gardens (which is mostly like trying to walk in quicksand) we should be supporting open protocols and systems that don't require a walled garden at all, like the internet used to be.
This. You can always host your own music on your own site. Of course then you need to deal with monetisation and how you actually get paid. But you have control! Sincerely, as Spotify (and the rest of the streaming services) are forced to make more and more user-hostile decisions to keep their revenue growth curve going up and to the right, it might make sense to jump ship early.
Even if you run your own site, search engines and SEO work against you in many similar ways. Music has been run on a "pay for play" basis for many years now, it's creeping into aspects of pretty much every kind of entrepreneurial business.
If you don't participate in promotion on social media for your art or business, there is absolutely no contact with new customers unless you run a brick and mortar or maybe rent billboards.
In order to monetize streams on your own personal web site you'd likely need to run ads, charge for user accounts, and/or generate paid memberships, which is harder than pulling teeth even as a well known musician.
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just one minor tweak of what plays next can totally rip off independent artists on the platform. We have reached an era where algorithms aren't transparent, so artists like me are bewildered that for all the promoting we do on our own music, we rarely get any views and listens unless we literally spend thousands of dollars on advertising to break the visibility barrier... For example, if I tweet a link to my own song…
Do you not remember high school? Nerds hate artists.
These tired stereotypes aren't true now, weren't true decades ago when I was in school, and were likely never true.
But they work well on sitcoms, is that where you get your perspective on the world?
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#219Hi, I'm one of the spotifyd maintainers, happy to answer any questions people have - though I'm coming to this thread awfully late... We recently cut a new release for the first time in over a year, which is very exciting for all of us (and I'm guessing why the project has been submitted here now :D)
Is there an existential threat looming? Could Spotify make an API change that would completely break libespot and Spotifyd? Any insights as to why/why not that might be likely? Also, any plans to add the ability to save the tracks that are streamed? (for e.g. offline playback or for exporting to mp3 etc.)
> Also, any plans to add the ability to save the tracks that are streamed?
I hope not. Sounds like a great way to provoke Spotify into a breaking API change.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
This uses librespot, not the original library that Spotify published and recently killed. Mopidy is also moving to librespot, but it's complicated with their gstreamer architecture (though I believe its mostly functional at this point).
Can't wait for mopidy to switch over - I have "Pirate Audio" PI hats that work are based around mopidy and I am not clever enough to figure out how to use the LCD screen with others.
Holidays are coming which means free time is coming! Hoping to finally get this fixed up and released.