Not a Twitter fan or a social media user but I see no problem with this at all. Looks like a private company playing hardball with competitors. I don't see any hypocracy unless you adopt some very neive definition of protecting free speech
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People absolutely should. And people should also hold Musk to account for being a liar and a hypocrite. These things don't conflict.
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This doesn't hold to scrutiny.
Excuse the gross comparison, but if a serial public pee-er moves to the same area I live in and pees wantonly all over the place, the answer isn't "just move somewhere without people peeing in public", it's to take some action and complain loudly about the fact I don't like that someone is peeing all over where I live without any repercussion.
Elon Musk has too much in the game to both participate on and run Twitter. The bans in the last weeks are far too convenient to simply be the new moderation staff finding abhorrent persons when there are reporters, parodists, and just general Elon Musk objectors being banned from Twitter without any oversight or reason. Mastodon is not a good alternative, as nice as it might be; the on-boarding and the concept is too much for most people, and ultimately moving to Mastodon is just conceding Twitter to Elon Musk, when openly defying and degrading all stores of value that Elon can influence are a real way to enact change.
Already the biggest Tesla investors are calling Elon Musk out as detrimental to Tesla stock because of his performance on/with Twitter. I do not desire punishment or pain for anyone, but I also don't want someone to be able to manipulate public discourse like I understand Elon Musk is currently doing with Twitter (for my perception, the bans are just far too specific and vague; the tweets and their content are completely non-offensive and the rulings from Twitter are far too specific to be afterthoughts of safety)
Elon Musk is not a great person by any means, he just has money; money should not be a reason to elevate an opinion above another by any stretch of the imagination. The sooner that the world accepts this, the better, and if it means that Elon Musk's valuation tanks, then so be it.
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#213When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…
I moved to Gitlab and stayed there. Principles and all that.
It's breaking my heart to see Gitlab's recent behaviour (e.g., deleting old projects,
removing sensible pricing options). I want to give them my money but no longer can because of how prohibitively expensive it is for me to buy the features I'd want.
It's clear they're struggling to compete with a post-acquisition GitHub that effectively has infinite budget from Microsoft.
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#214does any other social media company do this. this looks highly unusual. and what about products like linktree whose main purpose is to aggregate social media profiles for a single user
They specifically mention Linktree and say it's not allowed either.
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#215When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…
I wonder if those other than 50 were ever relevant besides being a number on the profile and people just never asked themselves the question.
It's quite easy to get followers. You just post something with a popular hashtag and you get all kinds of followers. How do they help you though? Do people really think, those thousands of people actually read their tweets it they're not some kind of VIP?
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#216This whole “arbitrary action followed by clumsy post hoc justification by hurriedly written policy policy” thing is beginning to get kind of comical.
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#217Banning links to Facebook? Really? This flying by the seat of the pants moderation style reminds me of friends in highschool running their own phpBB instances and IRC channels.. Also, Telegram, Discord, Tumblr aren't listed? Lol.
Actually only links to profiles calling for follow. If I understand correctly.
Musk refers to it as "free promotion of social media platforms", he's taking it personally. Personally I think they should all respond in kind.
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#218Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…
I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?
I've been wondering whether he's planning to run for some office (in South Africa? US?). At least, that would make his burning through $44Bn, lying so much and voluntarily antagonizing/ostracizing "the Libs" somewhat logical.
edit: Alright, here is my latest idle theory: he wants (or wanted at some point) to become a news mogul and a US Republican kingmaker. And since Twitter is (for many people) the news:
1. buying Twitter;
2. achieving absolutist control over it;
3. getting rid of the Libs while appealing to Republican victimhood.
...makes some kind of sense.
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#219If you’re looking to migrate away from Twitter to Mastodon, check out this article:
https://www.jeremymorgan.com/tutorials/mastodon/migrate-twit...
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#220When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…
The obvious difference is that Github didn’t immediately start spiraling the drain in the most pathetic manner possible.
Yup. People were angry that a company they don't like bought Github. But if you look at what Microsoft actually changed, there's not much to complain. They even made private repositories free, and significantly reduced prices for many users. It's hard to stay angry at a company when they are giving you what you want for free!
Twitter, on the other hand, wants to get users to sign up for a paid subscription and starts banning everyone who is sceptical. That's the best way to drive people away.