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Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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this doesn't really influence my comment, if 1 million people over the past 2 years died of falling bricks I'd wear a helmet

As would I, because falling bricks kill young healthy people. HIV kills ~650K per year, should everyone take PreP?

I do

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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The longer a society wears masks, the sicker everyone will be when they eventually come off. In the formerly overly cautious US Northeast, kids are getting sick left and right this school year. And COVID is the least dangerous bold-faced name they need to worry about.

This is an absolute myth. There is no evidence of "immunity debt", and serious public officials parrotting this nonsense are doing real damage. It's a tempting explanation because it's simple and seems to make intuitive sense, but it's just wrong. The explanation that has much more evidence is that everyone and their dog caught COVID, and COVID has been directly linked to lasting immune system damage, making everyone…

Furness seems to have only a cursory understand of immunity (despite all his credentials). Boosters and yearly flu shots just some simple examples of how the immunological world does not work the way he describes. Too many public health officials are unwilling to admit they made mistakes and gave bad recommendations early in the pandemic. He should correct his errors or step down.

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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> It doesn't need to have zero cost in order to be the correct thing to do. The question is whether or not the trade-off is worthwhile. I don't dispute this. You're more than welcome to continue doing whatever you want and make that trade-off for yourself. I won't be participating, because to me, the value of seeing human faces vastly exceeds the benefit of avoiding a cold (assuming that is even achievable, which I d…

>But the metaphor of "pants" is absurd. Yes that's the point. It's a reductio ab absurdem. The pant metaphor is obviously absurd for the same reason that the initial position you posited is absurd. In order to salvage your initial position, you need to differentiate the logic or premises from the absurd argumentation. Pants and Shirts aren't symbols of fear and control despite being mandated in most areas of public l…

My "initial position" was that the metaphor is absurd. So we agree.

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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As would I, because falling bricks kill young healthy people. HIV kills ~650K per year, should everyone take PreP?

I do

We have that in common then, but I asked if everyone should take it. Does my grandma need it?

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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Btw masks work for influenza too! I plan to keep wearing masks during viral outbreaks. Why not? Beats the hell out of being sick.

I myself don't mind wearing a mask, but in general I don't believe we should force others to do so in most circumstances.

Im fine with that being a public health decision. Given how rarely mask mandates have been used it seems like public health officials prioritize choice except for extreme situations. That’s fair to my mind. At least in the US the Supreme Court has found public health can trump individual liberties up to a point, and that point is usually forced medical intervention. So they can’t force you to vaccinate. But they can levy fines or quarantine you by force if you refuse. This was decided several times but the key case was one where Boston was inoculating people against smallpox. Someone refused because they had already been inoculated and had had a bad reaction. They wanted to force it on him so he sued and it went to the Supreme Court. Instead he was fined for not inoculating. Interestingly compared to the covid vaccine, which had a whole kerfuffle, the smallpox inoculation was actually a pretty unsafe thing. The micromorts for the covid vaccines are extraordinarily low.

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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> How would you characterize the costs associated with wearing a mask most of the time when in public? I tried it for a year and it's dehumanizing. Not sure how you'd rate that vs the unknown chance of long covid but I've made my choice.

Yes make sure to tell your doctor you think wearing a mask is before they work on you or you mother or your child. Tell them you think masks are dehuminizing. Or just skip to what you really mean, tell your doctor who is going to operate on your or your child that you do not think they work. Moron.

You can't attack others like that here, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. Since you've mostly been posting flamewar comments and ideological battle comments (all of which is against HN's guidelines), I've banned this account.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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For vaccinated individuals, being sick for two weeks is unusual. When I got covid the first time, before vaccines were available, I was sick less than a week. I had a few weeks of brain fog after that but it cleared up. I got it again last week and I was sick for only a day. Not any worse than any cold I’ve had before. Indeed I’ve had fewer sick days the last couple of years than I did the year my daughter started da…

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You can't post like this here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

I actually just banned you for this because the post was so shocking and abusive. However, after looking quickly at your comment history, it's clear that the overwhelming majority of your contributions have been positive, so I undid the ban. Thanks for being a good user, and please just don't do this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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>But the metaphor of "pants" is absurd. Yes that's the point. It's a reductio ab absurdem. The pant metaphor is obviously absurd for the same reason that the initial position you posited is absurd. In order to salvage your initial position, you need to differentiate the logic or premises from the absurd argumentation. Pants and Shirts aren't symbols of fear and control despite being mandated in most areas of public l…

My "initial position" was that the metaphor is absurd. So we agree.

We don't. You're confusing what's being called absurd. The argument you presented or the comparison itself. One doesn't imply the other.

Anyways, this is an old thread so I'll drop off. Have a nice day.

Re: Graph showing level of Covid, flu and RSV in US wastewater systems, by city

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Indoor masking is quite common in the SF Bay Area.

It's a cult over there. They get guilted into feeling like bioterrorists if they don't.

This is not true. Most people I know and I don’t wear masks regularly anymore, except for special cases. And no one has ever guilted me for it.

There are certain places where many people are masked, so I might wear one to be polite.

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