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Any recommendations? I took one that you take at night. It slightly improved my focus during day. But would leave me sleepy all day. Even with taking it before bed.
Strattera (atomoxetine) is a commonly used SNRI developed for adhd. I personally had a very bad reaction to it, but it allegedly helps some people. Guanfacine is another, I haven't tried it, so I can't give any first hand experience. I think it's used more to help blood pressure & agitation that can come up with adhd Welbutrin is also commonly used.
The silent struggles of workers with ADHD
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Re: The silent struggles of workers with ADHD
#212Not 100% related but if you are having ADHD symptoms consider making sure you don’t have sleep apnea. Waking symptoms are about the same.
big plus one to this. recommend mouth tape + humidifier
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Vyvanse works best for me. But Causes me a lot of pain. So I only rarely take it.
Was your doctor reluctant to prescribe it for occasional use? As I understand it, providers typically expect you take ADHD meds daily. I ask because my attention issues are task-dependent, but doctors tend to view even the suggestion of occasional use as a red flag for recreational abuse.
I don't think this is the case - mine recommends 5-6 days a week maximum to avoid building up tolerance, and I believe this is fairly standard advice. And occasional longer breaks are encouraged for the same reason.
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It's too late for you to apply any standards to your DNA, you've already been born.
Is there any evidence ADHD is genetic? The only connection I've read about is that parents who are diagnosed with ADHD are more likely to have their children diagnosed with it, but that itself is not evidence of a genetic trait. Seems just as likely to be nurture than nature to me- for example if parents over-stimulate their kids by putting them in front of TVs/iPads/etc. from a young age it's not surprising they'll…
Doesn't mean there isn't also some nuture involved also, likely not the "over-stimulation" argument you make, but more likely the "if you have it, more likely to recognize it in your children" type of thing.
From the following link
> Decades of research show that genes play an vital role in the etiology of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and its comorbidity with other disorders. Family, twin, and adoption studies show that ADHD runs in families. ADHD’s high heritability of 74% motivated the search for ADHD susceptibility genes. Genetic linkage studies show that the effects of DNA risk variants on ADHD must, individually, be very small. Genome-wide association studies (GWAS) have implicated several genetic loci at the genome-wide level of statistical significance. These studies also show that about a third of ADHD’s heritability is due to a polygenic component comprising many common variants each having small effects.
> Family, twin, and adoption studies provide a firm foundation for asserting that genes are involved in the etiology of ADHD.
> Adoption studies suggest that the familial factors of ADHD are attributable to genetic factors rather than shared environmental factors
> A similar heritability estimate of around 80% was seen in a study of MZ and DZ twins, full siblings, and maternal and paternal half-siblings
> There can be no doubt that DNA variants in genes or regulatory regions increase the risk for ADHD. In rare cases, a single genetic defect may lead to ADHD in the absence of other DNA variants. We do not know how many of these rare variants exist or if such variants require environmental triggers for ADHD to emerge. It is equally clear that no common DNA variants are necessary and sufficient causes of ADHD.
It doesn't preclude environmental factors either:
> The convincing evidence for genes as risk factors for ADHD does not exclude the environment as a source of etiology. The fact that twin estimates of heritability are less than 100% asserts quite strongly that environmental factors must be involved. ADHD’s heritability is high, and that estimate encompasses gene by environment interaction.
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> many people (particularly on HN for some reason) are in heavy denial that they are addicted to amphetamines and that it maybe isn't such a healthy way to solve behavioral problems You've coasted into the territory of self-appointed expert on ADHD. To me, this reads as "I have no idea what ADHD is like or how to manage it. My mind can't imagine that other minds may work differently, so what would work for my mind mu…
No need to get so defensive, I don't think it's beyond the pale to characterize ADHD as a 'behavior problem'. And I don't think our minds are as different as you say- I take adderall sometimes when I have a lot to do and it helps me focus immensely. It does that for almost everyone believe it or not, you don't have be diagnosed with something for amphetamines to help you focus- it's what they do. I can absolutely und…
Yes there is. You're mischaracterizing a disorder and thereby marginalizing people who suffer from it while making normative statements about it despite not being an expert. That's offensive.
> I take adderall sometimes when I have a lot to do
Are you saying that you have a diagnosis? Or are you just taking it illegally / in a country with lax drug laws? It's a prescription medication that's currently in short supply, so unless your healthcare provider is proscribing it for you you're really being a douche canoe.
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#216I feel like ADHD is just normal for a huge percentage of people but the people gifted with an abundance of concentration are extremely overrepresented in medicine and management positions.
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#217I recently came across Tracy Marks' channel on YouTube [0]. I've been programming for a long time, but I only got neuropsych testing about 10 years ago. I was unambiguously diagnosed with ADHD, and I've been on stimulants ever since. Despite all that personal experience, I still found that her ADHD videos connected a lot of dots for me. The videos also give some practical advice that's working well for me. [0] https:…
How do you get neuropsych testing and how does it differ from the normal testing for ADHD? I have been diagnosed multiple times but I always wonder if I really have it. I was on medication for a while but stopped taking it.
The memory issues were probably some combo of poor sleep / stress / aging. But the testing did reveal massive ADHD as well as (probable) mild Asperger syndrome.
Interestingly, this was after I'd already earned my PhD. It's a little sad to think how much better my career might have gone, and how much faster I could have finished grad school, if I'd known about the ADHD.
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> Also these same people with "ADHD" never lose focus when they are driving, snowboarding, skateboarding, riding a motorcycle, on the witness stand at court, etc. Yes, they do. > In adults with ADHD, most studies investigated whether there was a correlation with traffic accidents with the patient as the driver of a motor vehicle (car or motorbike), and found a significant association. https://www.sciencedirect.com/sc…
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you are looking at it from the perspective of the boss. try looking from the perspective of the worker who want to succeed in a highly regimented world that's artificially constructed that way. if you don't believe the world is artificially constructed in myriad ways which are counterproductive to vast populations, i recommend the book Invisible Women.
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Do unto others, etc.
Re: The silent struggles of workers with ADHD
#220As an adult who feels like they identify with these characteristics, it is hard to know when to try to get help, or whether you are just seeing what you want to see and looking for an excuse. I have always shied away from seeking an adult ADHD diagnosis, partly because of prideful denial (not wanting to acknowledge that there might be something wrong with me), and partly because I have no faith in the NHS giving a sh…
Getting an adult ADHD diagnosis on the NHS is very hard and time consuming. Most people in the UK get a private diagnosis - there are many online websites now that will diagnose you completely over zoom in 1 hour. In the US it's even easier. There is a profit motive in the US to get people onto lifetime medication, and many websites for online diagnosis and delivery. If you have private insurance, it's easy - just se…