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Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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>>Do you actually use twitter so this comment isn't lining up with your expectations? yes, and I see zero hate or other issues with content on my feed > What is _actually_ motivating you to comment like this? I hate when people attribute opening the Overton window to more than just Extreme left authoritarian political opinions, which is what Political Twitter was isolated to before elon, is some how a bad thing

> I hate when people attribute opening the Overton window to more than just Extreme left authoritarian political opinions, which is what Political Twitter was isolated to before elon This is incorrect. "Based on a massive-scale experiment involving millions of Twitter users, a fine-grained analysis of political parties in seven countries, and 6.2 million news articles shared in the United States, this study carries o…

Nothing in your comment refutes my position. The very rules and actions of "Trust and safety" are what I am talking about, not what links users of the platform share.

Try to actually talk about what I am complaining about

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Musk also asked people to report suspected Antifa accounts to Andy Ngo a right-wing conservative journalist. All of whom have now been suspended despite there being no infringement on terms of service.

> Musk also asked people to report suspected Antifa accounts to Andy Ngo a right-wing conservative journalist. Is there a source on that? Because if so, holy crap... but I'd like to see some evidence.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1596071799410003969

And note how Musk through simply engaging with these people gives endorsement to this ridiculous and baseless link between pedophiles and left-wing accounts.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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That is the thing, people do not go to twitter to be in "Small Focused Community" They do it to interact with the globe, and the more people on that network the better it is. There are a million ways to create a niche site (like hacker news) that allows a Small Focused Community to interact, that is not a replacement for Twitter

Agreed, but that's kinda the point in my eyes. Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy? Everyone was on Facebook too. We're not all looking for Facebook 2.0 currently, are we? Yea, we have different form factors of social networks, definitely. But some (not all!) of the core features of Facebook were misguided or mismanaged. Some features of F…

>>Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy?

I do not agree, and it does not make me unhappy at all. I am late 70's child, I experienced the Wild West of the internet, nothing posted to twitter (or the chan's for that matter) shock me, or makes me unhappy

I think people need thicker skin, and maybe more anonymity not less...

Censorship is not the solution, never has been in history and never will be in the future.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Musk also asked people to report suspected Antifa accounts to Andy Ngo a right-wing conservative journalist. All of whom have now been suspended despite there being no infringement on terms of service.

> Musk also asked people to report suspected Antifa accounts to Andy Ngo a right-wing conservative journalist. Is there a source on that? Because if so, holy crap... but I'd like to see some evidence.

Looks to be the same source as was used in a sibling comment further up https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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what is not scientific about it? maybe its not good science, but it is science. really almost anything is science... Science is just observation and experimentation. Science doesn't dictate how you do the above. Now, someone would find it impossible to reproduce your findings, but - that would just suggest bad science

> Science is just observation and experimentation. That's not enough. If you don't include some sense of both 'systematic' and 'rigorous' (and yes, these terms are slippery), you aren't doing science.

But both of those qualifiers exist on continuums and where an experiment lies on them is subject to opinion, so there's no singular threshold. It means it would depend on the person reviewing the experiment whether it's "systematic" and "rigorous" enough to (personally) be considered science. What you're describing is the quality of the science, not whether or not it is science.

Until you can objectively measure how "systematic" and "rigorous" an experiment is, your definition of science only applies to you.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. They recently unbanned many controversial accounts based solely on Twitter polls. Who do they expect will believe these statements?

On November 23, Twitter stopped enforcing its "COVID-19 misleading information" policy. The previous policy received acclaim from medical professionals: In an advisory to technology platforms, US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy cited Twitter’s rules as an example of what companies should do to combat misinformation. When journalist Kara Swisher in September 2020 confronted Musk with the possibility that many people…

Well know we know why they kept the covid policy and just aren't enforcing it [1]. They knew they were writing this blog post!

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33789456

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