After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses personal details of users

Post by al_caan » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 11:28 PM UTC

Gasp0de wrote: post #119

ls15 wrote: post #2

Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.

While Signal does require a phone number to register, they only know your phone number, your date of registration and the date of your phones last connection to signal's servers. Anyone requesting your information from them needs to provide your phone number, so any info they can get is account creation date and date of last connection.

Post by ummonk » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 1:59 AM UTC

ViViDboarder wrote: post #153

ummonk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

End-to-end encryption doesn't protect you from this, since any recipient can report illegal material to the authorities and trigger an investigation of the sender.

I’m that case, literally nothing will protect you from this. Any recipient can put anyone in any conversation.

Post by ls15 » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 8:17 AM UTC

discardedrefuse wrote: post #174

ls15 wrote: post #2

Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.

> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app No. It doesn't. This sentiment is pretty much confined to HN and seems to stem from the whole Moxie non-sense from years ago. Telegram is a so much more than a messenger. It competes with WeChat, not Signal. It has an incredible API, bots, payments, apps/games, and is host to Onlyfans / Discord-like social groups. It's time to stop parroting this idea that Telegram is…

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Post by andai » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 2:08 PM UTC

derwiki wrote: post #192

MattJ100 wrote: post #182

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I know it's an anecdote, and I'm the founder of the Snikket project, but I rolled out an early version to 10+ family members during lockdown. The majority of them were remote and ages from 80. I emailed them the invitation link, and that was about it. They all managed to sign up with no issues. Scanning a QR isn't actually necessary. That flow exists for when you open the invitation on e.g. a desktop or laptop, and y…

My mother has no idea how to check her email and doesn't use it. She also doesn't know how to text. Or check voicemail. It's just another point of anecdata, but this is my bar for "non-technical."

Post by benhurmarcel » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 4:23 PM UTC

discardedrefuse wrote: post #174

ls15 wrote: post #2

Don't use messengers that ask for your phone number and aren't end-to-end encrypted. Use services that store as little data as possible. If data is stored, it can be given away and I would assume that it will be given away. Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app, when it is actually just a regular centralized plaintext messenger that has an encryption feature that nobody uses.

> Telegram disguises itself as encrypted chat app No. It doesn't. This sentiment is pretty much confined to HN and seems to stem from the whole Moxie non-sense from years ago. Telegram is a so much more than a messenger. It competes with WeChat, not Signal. It has an incredible API, bots, payments, apps/games, and is host to Onlyfans / Discord-like social groups. It's time to stop parroting this idea that Telegram is…