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Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by Izkata »

userbinator wrote: post #13
jameshart wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This of course rests on the assumption that there is such a thing as a 'regular name'. I'm obliged to link you to 'falsehoods programmers believe about names' now. I'm not happy about it, but those are the rules. https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-...

There are certainly far more Clydes than there are Discords (has anyone even been legally named Discord before?) I'm not happy about it, but those are the rules. ..."then change them", as someone might say. But that article seems to be mostly about the edge-cases. I don't think someone named Clyde is an edge-case, nor would someone named Bonnie, for that matter.

> has anyone even been legally named Discord before?

There was a Roman goddess named Discordia (where "discord" came from), and in the 90s Hercules and Xena TV series the Greek goddess used that Roman name instead of Eris, but simplified to just Discord.

Those two series were pretty popular, so I can see it being more likely recently than in that 1950s census sibling comment found. On the flipside, that character is probably not something parents would want for their daughter.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by Izkata »

marcyb5st wrote: post #166
themaninthedark wrote: post #138

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Wait, what? I'm trying to figure out why that would exist but the only thing I can think of is that people were buying a ticket for their instruments rather then checking them and the airline wanted to try and stop the practice.

I was shocked as well, and couldn't come up with an explanation either. My name is Marcello and the problem was the `cello` substring (an Italian name, but being Italian an official language in Switzerland they should have though about that). They removed it luckily!

Now I'm wondering if there's a language where "mar" translates to "my"...

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by themaninthedark »

marcyb5st wrote: post #166
themaninthedark wrote: post #138

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Wait, what? I'm trying to figure out why that would exist but the only thing I can think of is that people were buying a ticket for their instruments rather then checking them and the airline wanted to try and stop the practice.

I was shocked as well, and couldn't come up with an explanation either. My name is Marcello and the problem was the `cello` substring (an Italian name, but being Italian an official language in Switzerland they should have though about that). They removed it luckily!

That is the instrument that I had in mind when I was thinking of the ones that musicians buy tickets for, but I couldn't think of a name that had a collision with it.

I had heard that some airlines may have tried to discourage the practice but this is the first I heard about such measures.

Seems common for some travelers to book tickets ie. Tuba, Lastname. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus-pre-merg...

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by eesmith »

xnorswap wrote: post #178
denton-scratch wrote: post #174

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Tzatziki, Tsetse and Tzar are not English words; OP said there was just one English word (which he identified as "pizza", which isn't an English word).

It has foreign roots but it's surely an English word by any workable definition.

And "tsetse" has been used in English for nearly 100 years longer than pizza - the latter only really introduced because of Allied soldiers sent to in Italy.

Google Ngram says it wasn't until the 1970s when "pizza" was more commonly used than "tsetse." https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=tsetse%2Cpizza... . Or from BoingBoing today, "North Americans feared and misunderstood pizza in the 1950s" - https://boingboing.net/2022/11/21/north-americans-feared-and... .

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by jstarfish »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #179
stavros wrote: post #121

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Seriously, what the hell were they thinking? If I'm so frustrated at a device that I'll tell it to shut up, the last thing I want from it is more noise.

I've read a few times about the concerns people have with voice assistants, which all predominantly default to female voices, taking orders and abuse without question. I believe Cortana was also intended to "stand up for herself" in these situations, to avoid making it seem okay/normal to bark abusive orders at a "woman".

Great idea. When an aggressive man starts hurling verbal abuse at a robot with some female traits, let's antagonize him further with woke rhetoric from the safety of a remote datacenter.

With that sort of reinforcement, his next unfavorable encounter with an actual human female will surely end well.

Does nobody even try to de-escalate situations anymore? The most advanced AI in the world can't slink away quietly, wait until he calms down and try to correct these sorts of behaviors by promoting the idea that he'd slay it in bed, lose weight or grow a monster dong if he read this self-help book (now 20% off!) about treating women with respect? An incorporeal AI with goddamn control of a smart home can't walk through a hostage negotiation playbook to manipulate a violent occupant into submission? Clearly domestic violence is an impossible problem to solve.

It pains me to see people (usually women) encouraging vulnerable women to "stand up for [themselves]" in situations even armed male cops won't approach without backup from other armed men. It's sociopathic-- on par with teenagers encouraging other kids to commit suicide.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by withinboredom »

eesmith wrote: post #142
YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #127

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Just off the top of my head, depending on accent or dialect: "spritzer", "waltzer", "Mitsubishi", "matzos", "mitzvah".

A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has: PIZZA P IY1 T S AH0 Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end" % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 991 Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two so…

Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by leosarev »

05 wrote: post #120
leosarev wrote: post #65

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In Russia, Yandex have decided to call his voice assistant "Alice". Which is top 4 popular name in Russia.

Is it? http://popname.ru/index.php?name=%C0%EB%E8%F1%E0&name_sex=1 #48 0.4%

Your data is about "percentage of female names in whole population". I'm talking about "most popular name to assign to newborns". Sorry for misunderstanding.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by jodrellblank »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #210
BlueTemplar wrote: post #145

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How would you know how much it has been used ? We don't even have a database for all the humans alive today, much less one for the last 400 000 years...

You can be pretty confident without a comprehensive database. If you're unsure about a name then don't pick that one. And people that are dead won't be inconvenienced, so you can ignore them.

People (and lawyers) might get annoyed if you called your bot Avici, even though he is dead and won’t personally be inconvenienced by it.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by bobsmooth »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #179
stavros wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, what the hell were they thinking? If I'm so frustrated at a device that I'll tell it to shut up, the last thing I want from it is more noise.

I've read a few times about the concerns people have with voice assistants, which all predominantly default to female voices, taking orders and abuse without question. I believe Cortana was also intended to "stand up for herself" in these situations, to avoid making it seem okay/normal to bark abusive orders at a "woman".

The second my computer starts talking back to me is the second I throw it in the garbage.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by eesmith »

withinboredom wrote: post #216
eesmith wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has: PIZZA P IY1 T S AH0 Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end" % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 991 Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two so…

Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!

It certainly seems your Russian teacher wasn't fond of schnitzel nor seltzer.
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