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Note: I added my email to my profile after writing this. Feel free to reach out if you’re curious. I have a deep love for psychoanalysis. I stumbled upon it by chance. I don’t know of a great patient introduction, but I linked some explainers on the ideas below. Psychoanalysis as I understand it is about understanding your relationship patterns and changing them. The analysis I’m in works through free association, I…

Thanks! How do I go about finding a good analyst then? Are those some of the Twitter names you listed. How long did take you before you felt you were making some progress. I'm very intrigued by this.

>How do I go about finding a good analyst then? Are those some of the Twitter names you listed

Mine was through referral of a friend. Dumb luck. I’ve heard you can also find them by contacting a local psychoanalytic institute. Seems like the American psychoanalytic institute has a website for finding them as well. [1] On twitter,Jonathan Shedler is in the Bay Area and obviously nyctherapist is in nyc, they are both analysts, it’s possible they could refer as well (no clue). If you’re in NYC you’re in luck because analysts (at least used to) occupy many of the offices near Central Park. I used to find therapists through psychology today, but I think analysts are harder to find there. Asking for a referral from someone you find there might be good too.

In my opinion credentials (MD, PsyD, PhD) and age (within reason) seem like good signs. Proxies for experience.

Oh also, it could be worth explicitly asking the person if they are practicing psychoanalysis specifically. There are a lot of varieties of therapy. Sometimes therapists seem to list themselves as psychoanalytic (or psychodynamic) when they aren’t analysts.

>How long did take you before you felt you were making some progress.

Hm. It’s a little tricky to tease apart. When I started I was so desperate to get better that I would think anything was progress. Which is to say I felt like things were improving immediately, but I think the deeper kinds of progress actually came later. Psychoanalysis is after real psychological change. I think the changes I have experienced have come from slowly but deliberately picking apart these masses of feeling inside me, and have come over the course of months and years rather than days and weeks. I got into a (different) relationship after perhaps 5ish months. Getting into a relationship was not an explicit goal to me when I started, but I was so isolating that I think that’s indication of some genuine change. I know that by now I have changed quite a lot. It’s been about 5 years.

In any case, if you do pursue it, good luck! I’ve found it deeply enriching. It’s great for my curiosity, and I think there’s even a sense of adventure to it (going to depths of the mind that are no where else allowed)

[1] https://apsa.org/find-an-analyst

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Elon, nodding along to your explanation of how authentication works, sees how intelligent, capable, and full of potential you are. He stops you: Wait Bob, do you have a startup idea you’re working on that I can invest in? Can I at least get your personal phone number for late night idea sessions? Again, it’s time to leave fantasy land.

people who share intense experiences and endure hardship together will tend to be very open to communicating again in the future. This is based on my past experience, not fantasy.

It's a fantasy for you to think this will include Elon Musk. There are legions of SpaceX and Tesla engineers -- did they form this deep human connection with Elon that you're expecting? But you think it'll happen here? Again: Time to leave the fantasy. Senpai won't notice you.

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Or…it’s separating the wheat from the chaff

^totally. I remember my startup incubator we all worked well into the night often as late as 6am. I remember falling asleep at my terminal often, and indeed slept at the office regularly, well until they told me to stop that. Look, people of a certain mindset need an Everest to conquer. If they don’t want to join in they can leave, everyone is there by choice.

> people of a certain mindset need an Everest to conquer.

Well said. There are a few of us out there with that Gimli from LOTR approach to life:

“Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?”

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And doing this for an established company owned by one of the richest people on Earth is… supposed to make this better?

To keep a company alive vs shuttering it? Seems like it’s something that these folks are willing to do for the organization and Musk. They chose to stay despite an offer to go voluntarily with a severance package . Who does that? Can we give these SWEs the benefit of the doubt that they are intelligent enough to make a decision that is in their best interest? I honestly do not understand why it’s getting the hate her…

They’re burning the midnight oil to save a company that is suffering from fatal wounds that were largely self-inflicted.

The details of the severance package weren’t known until after they had agreed to stay. You also need to consider that many people are attached to a specific job and are strongly opposed to leaving due to specific benefits they might struggle to find elsewhere. Besides the H1B situation that many have wondered about, there are also things like health insurance. Depending on one’s health situation—particularly with children—you may be concerned about finding a new position at a company with a similar health plan before your severance runs out. COBRA is expensive.

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people who share intense experiences and endure hardship together will tend to be very open to communicating again in the future. This is based on my past experience, not fantasy.

It's a fantasy for you to think this will include Elon Musk. There are legions of SpaceX and Tesla engineers -- did they form this deep human connection with Elon that you're expecting? But you think it'll happen here? Again: Time to leave the fantasy. Senpai won't notice you.

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people who share intense experiences and endure hardship together will tend to be very open to communicating again in the future. This is based on my past experience, not fantasy.

It's a fantasy for you to think this will include Elon Musk. There are legions of SpaceX and Tesla engineers -- did they form this deep human connection with Elon that you're expecting? But you think it'll happen here? Again: Time to leave the fantasy. Senpai won't notice you.

can you share the datapoints you are referencing that lead you to this conclusion? My experience over 30 years spent in many startups as well as other domains such as mountaineering where shared suffering cements strong bonds leads me to a different conclusion. Perhaps we just differ on our assessment of EM's motivations.

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I am amazed by how polarizing this seems to be. Some of my best memories are from previous startups with this exact 1am energy. This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done, and shared suffering cements lifelong bonds.

> shared suffering cements lifelong bonds. I'm sorry, is this a cult or a workplace? Why is this a good thing? > This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done I get why Elon wants people to work until 1am, but what's in it for the employees ? Why work 2x as hard and 2x as long and get 2x shit done if you're not getting paid 2x as much?

>> shared suffering cements lifelong bonds. > I'm sorry, is this a cult or a workplace? Why is this a good thing?

There are many contexts where some amount of suffering is a prerequisite for achieving great things. For example, from personal experience, both startups and mountaineering require some amount of suffering to achieve great things. The bonds formed from shared suffering are like top 25th percentile.

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