So who's building Twitter 2.0 right now, featuring decentralization?
I moved to Mastodon. 1 day later I have a pretty nice feed and good amount of followers.
Many of them old familiar now Twitter-refugees.
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#212I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…
George Hotz is interviewing there tomorrow. https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/159339146698169139... For a certain kind of engineer, this version of Twitter is far more attractive than the previous one.
Why? What complex technical problem is there to solve at twitter at this point?
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#213This will be an interesting experiment in large scale code rot. How long do you think twitter.com will work with the code base frozen?
Until the AWS credit card gives up.
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#214I was really thinking about this sabbotage thing yesterday.
In these large companies, to make changes to a lot of systems, you have to have someone else also sign on to the changes (eg. code review).
If your aim is sabotage, you would have to find a like minded saboteur to work with you. In normal times, at most places, this is risky, because most others would not want to assist you, and would likely report you.
The equation has changed. Musk has turned nearly every employee against him. It is now much less risky to explore your social graph now to find people who are of like mind. The defenses that software companies have are completely inadequate to deal with this sort of situation.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…
> What's most surprising it seems he has no thesis for the company or how it can be made better or what was so terrible about it. I believe the thesis is he thinks it's possible to duplicate WeChat as a ubiquitous everything-app (news, media, social media, payments, ordering in restaurants, shopping, messaging) in the West. Why someone would believe that, I don't know. I imagine thinking you could also be the owner o…
There already exist WeChat equivalents in the West that do "news, media, social media, payments, ordering in restaurants, shopping, messaging", and in fact they even predate WeChat. They're known as Android and iOS.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Changing employment conditions" is a supernaturally charitable phrasing.
People get layed off from companies all the time. Why is it the end of the world when it happens at Twitter?
If Elon is supposed to be the devil, every twitter drone gets to be a martyr.
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#217@dang - maybe let one twitter story through to the home page?
It is a little strange that I have seen almost no Twitter stories on the front page in the last week. Has dang or anyone talked about why that might be? Is it getting caught in the flamewar algorithm? Are they treating this as one big story so any individual article gets removed as a repost?
@dang
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#218How many people does it take to keep HN running?
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#219Are people who still want to argue that Elon isn't destroying Twitter?
I just think he is trying to get rid of employees with low morale or those that don't want him as a boss. Twitter will be fine and there's a good chance it will do better under Elon's management.
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#220I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…
If I'm giving Elon the benefit of the doubt, A. he's intelligent B. He has 20+ years of corporate experience running companies, I would assume that there was some method to this madness. If I had to guess, he came in with the assumption that forces in the company would be hostile to him based on their beliefs. In order to weed those forces out, he engineered some of this madness to shake those people out. Unfortunate…
I'm amazed at how naive some of the people are here. Why not just accept what you're seeing with your own two eyes? Why look for an alternate explanation?