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Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Why can't it get enough reach? What if each news outlet ran their own server? Or would this feel like bondage with people wishing for multiple personas/autonomy?

News outlets all canned their comments sections - I see absolutely no reason why they'd want to bring back something even worse .

Did they? Alive and kicking in the UK.

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Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

> People dismiss his obvious success elsewhere in other insanely hard domains People also dismiss his failures in hard domains, like The Boring Company.

I am glad someone is trying. I don't see the likes of Sundar Pichai doing anything revolutionary.

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I think a lot of instances are about to experience their own version of the Eternal September.

I agree. It’s going to be the worst thing that happened to some of the communities there. Scam and Spam in particular have fresh greenfield with little to stop them. That is if the entire thing doesn’t fall over.

the fediverse has also been a safe haven for some otherwise marginalized communities too, and I am concerned that a flood of other users that are not familiar with the culture could overwhelm things and change the vibe significantly.

Also worried about what happens when advertisers & corporate money finds its way to the fediverse. Where users go, advertisers always follow, sadly.

We'll see how long this new surge lasts. I have 2 accounts on different instances and watched a 3rd that I used a lot vanish along with the instance itself when it became flooded with very illegal content.

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> As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these issues. For fun I just tried signing up and the process itself is confusing, sluggish, buggy, and ultimately didn’t work. It feels like it’ll need to improve very quiclkly if it’s going to capture any significant amount of Twitter users.

The slowness and bugs might be due to the sudden influx of people from Twitter. I just joined a small server that is now having to scale up a bit to accommodate all the new traffic, and I assume the more popular servers are seeing an even bigger bump. I was actually expecting the sign up process to be a lot more difficult than it was for me, just based on the impression I'd gotten from various HN comments over the ye…

> The slowness and bugs might be due to the sudden influx of people from Twitter

Yeah definitely, feels like they should have seen this coming though. They have an opportunity that won’t come around again, and poor performance and confusing UX seem like pretty serious problems.

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Using land amorally isn't the same thing as owning land unless you think land ownership is amoral.

I'll take that as a yes then. OP was not claiming all land ownership was bad. Just that rich people have commonly used land ownership to harm others. There is a long and rich history of this.

> creating legal property rights to land previously held in common.

That's not a use of land ownership, that's an amoral redistribution (theft) of land.

They took ownership from one party to another. The amorality was the transfer, not the ownership. Unless you think both parties are equally amoral for owning the land in the beginning and the end of the process.

The argument you're making would be like saying it was amoral for plantation owners to own the land they held because they had slaves. The problem is the slaves (and all the evils that came with it), not the plantation.

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This may be the only time this phrase has ever been warranted, but...crypto solves this?

I mean, you want decentralization but Mastodon is decentralized at the whim of whoever happens to own your server. So, what if you had a bunch of fungible providers all incentivized to etc etc...

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Just got this in my email because I signed up in Patreon as a supporter of a Mastodon node: "So our IndieWeb server has seen a 4,333% spike in users, and every day is a new record in daily new users sign ups .... In that same time we have done one major server upgrade, and have had zero down time, and as we screen all new users before joining, so far have had zero cases of spammers or scammers from inside the instanc…

> It's not an overreaction or hysteria

But it's literally the definition of that......

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Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

Why are so many people calling Elon Musk by his first name, like he's their buddy or neighbor? This reminds me when Steve Jobs had passed away, many people were walking the streets with candles and cards in memoriam of "Steve". How come?

That's a measure of fame.

When nobody knows you, they use the complete name, Elon Musk.

When you're famous, they drop the given name, you're Musk.

When you're ultrafamous, they only use the given name, now you're Elon.

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He’s kind of said it himself on multiple occasions. “Twitter as a company has always been my sole issue and my biggest regret. It has been owned by Wall Street and the ad model. Taking it back from Wall Street is the correct first step.” https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/1518772754782187520

He will likely come back.

Yeah - it wouldn't surprise me if Elon eventually puts Jack back in as CEO.

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I’m always surprised when there are still people acting like Elon isn’t just BEGGING to be hated. I’m still of the opinion he is not doing the work and his success is mostly throwing money at eager (and smart) engineers. That’s a smart thing to do, good call on his part, but it’s almost like he doesn’t know that’s how his companies work. Maybe he is just great at running tech companies or something but acting like th…

If that's all he is doing - paying smart people and expecting them to work hard - why isn't literally everyone else doing the same?

Aerospace had a lot of overqualified, underutilized engineers that were spectacularly easy to tap into with a little bit of extra money and a very interesting project.

That does not hold for Twitter. There is no magic clump of overqualified, underutilized people to tap into without throwing LOTS of money around. On top of that, Twitter mostly isn't that interesting.

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