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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by noncoml »

killjoywashere wrote: post #34
bgribble wrote: post #20

On urban US supermarket shelves virtually every bottle of olive oil advertises itself as "virgin" or the "even better" varieties ("extra virgin", "first cold pressed" etc). I have read that many of these labels are hogwash, and that the contents of your typical supermarket "extra virgin olive oil" bottle pretty often include adulterants like palm, canola, or sunflower oil. I can definitely taste the diff between supe…

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> Starbucks sucks

It’s not virtue signaling. It really sucks. Next time you are in SF, or somewhere where Ritual coffee has shops try an espresso from them(the Sweet Tooth preferably).

You will be blown by the difference in taste. I get that some people don’t care for it, but I don’t it’s virtue signaling to do.

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Post by L3viathan »

fsckboy wrote: post #176
metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world[0] and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3] [0] Mediterranean fighting words, with no footnote for comment's boldest claim

Recent studies show[1] that adding a bracketed number after a claim increases credibility, as most people don't actually check the claim[2] anyways.

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Post by Kaibeezy »

The paper concludes, in part: “Our results also suggest a negative synergism between high virgin OO consumption and total physical activity on all-cause mortality.”

I take this to mean that to some extent, either virgin olive oil and/or physical activity reduce all-cause mortality; they overlap. Am I reading this correctly?

Also, I was disappointed at the extent the discussion degenerated to a procurement hearsay scuffle. Not our usual standard of discourse.

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Post by puzzlingcaptcha »

silexia wrote: post #185

Warning on all studies published in Nature: they changed their policies recently to only publish studies that agree with their political opinions. This is now an opinion mag, not a science publication.

This isn't even published in Nature but in EJCN, which is published by Springer Nature.

With impact factor of 4 I'd caution against taking the results at face value.

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Post by Contax »

klodolph wrote: post #14
danjoredd wrote: post #2

Good thing I put that in practically all my food anyway. I always thought extra virgin olive oil tastes better than vegetable oil

Virgin olive oil has a strong flavor and very low smoke point, which makes it unsuitable for most types of food. You may like the taste of olive oil better than vegetable oil, but it’s kind of weird to taste olive oil in most foods. Kind of like how you wouldn’t but blue cheese on everything, or truffles on everything, or bacon on everything, even if you like the taste of those things—they taste a bit weird when comb…

I agree. My partner's family in Spain have some land with olive trees (400 old ones plus 300 they planted recently) and sometimes we go there to help them pick the olives from the trees/ground, for us it's more like some festive days with the family than work.

The thing is, every year they give us more cold pressed olive oil than we can consume, and they don't do it in exchange for our "work", they also get more than they can consume, and no, they don't sell it (not worthy considering the legal/health paperwork and fees that would involve). We love it, its taste is amazing, and we know where it comes from and how it has been processed.

Yet... we still have to buy and use sunflower oil for a lot food! The taste is just too hard for some stuff and is less than ideal for deep frying. Olive oil for a stew? Some cooked rice or pasta? A salad? Toasted bread with garlic or tomato? Sure! But it we are frying anything, from fries to churros, we do it with vegetable oil.

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Post by samoit »

yabatopia wrote: post #184
metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

What about Spanish olive oil?

Spanish person here. Spain is the biggest olive oil producer in the world. So big that Italia, and others buys the oil and pack it with its own label. There, is where some adulteration may come from. In Spain you can buy directly from the producers called "Cooperativas agricolas".

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Post by denton-scratch »

vineyardmike wrote: post #44
arcticfox wrote: post #3

I’m kind of bad at parsing these studies so maybe someone can help: Did they control for people opting for virgin OO having other confounding lifestyle factors that would cause the effect? I certainly lean towards virgin OO when I’m feeling that I want to be healthy.

> I certainly lean towards virgin OO when I’m feeling that I want to be healthy. Fwiw the use case for non-virgin olive oil is different. You’d want to use non virgin in anything that involves heat as it won’t burn or break down as easily. For anything that you’ll taste (eg dressings) you’d want an extra virgin oil that will have more of the plants’ taste. Could be worth splurging on nice oil for dressings/dipping oi…

I don't cook enough to justify multiple bottles of OO. For cooking, I generally use butter with a splash of OO: the OO seems to stop the butter scorching.

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Post by ultrasandwich »

stavros wrote: post #106
metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

Greek here, never heard of Terra Creta or Iliada, but the PDO stamps look legit (they are from famous oil-producing areas).

Terra Creta was everywhere in Crete when I was visiting there. Maybe it doesn't ship to the mainland very much?
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