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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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The police are no more responsive (if anything, less) after the progressive DA was recalled. You can’t blame the DA or the voters for this one.

Definitely can blame DAs for not brining charges. The rule of law is literally the only deterrence to anti-social behavior.

Crime has increased under the new DA…

Seems like the rule of law isn’t much of a deterrence in this case

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Also, SFPD’s budget was not cut in the wake of protests against police violence. There was no defunding of police in San Francisco. You can’t blame their inaction on policies that were not implemented here.

Ummm, SF voters voted to make their police force "SMALLER"! https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537593/san-francisco-proposi...

No, we voted to give the city the authority to reduce the size of the police force. They haven’t actually used that authority. Nor have they reduce the police budget.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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San Francisco has its heart in the right place and is struggling to grapple with the reality that lax drug laws invites the wrong kind of people to the city.

They really don't, and it's important for people to know that or they might be under the illusion it will be fixed at some point.

The people who vote in SF and run the government there are obsessed with punishing some undefined "privileged" set of people who are somehow causing all the issues. Of course they are themselves highly privileged so it's a self hatred.

It will keep getting worse.

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NoVA is more like Palo Alto than SF. DC proper is a different vibe

“I live in a wealthy suburb outside a major city and it’s safe here compared to an entire major city” fixed it for you

You seem to be implying that it's right and proper for cities to have high crime. Why is that?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

> Now, theft is rampant and unabated. It will take years to recover from "Defund the Police" and No-bail, charge drooping DAs.

I agree that ideology gets the best of people. For example there is a baffling group of people set on blaming all current and future crime on a previous DA and absolving the current DA, mayor and SFPD leadership of _any_ responsibility for what goes on in the city.

It doesn’t make a lick of sense to me rationally, but I understand the appeal of having a singular boogeyman to blame everything on, kind of like Evangelicals and their fixation on Satan.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

Can you provide any... yaknow... evidence that crime is going up on average? Just a quick Google implies that this is a complete fabrication https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Che... https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim... https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/san-francisco-crime-r... >Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. The irony of saying t…

The article you’re commenting on is evidence and data.

Are you aware that you’re countering data gathered by a long-standing reputable newspaper with data gathered by the police department?

Do you think there’s some other way of measuring theft besides people saying “I am the victim of a theft”?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Fair enough, but I don't think I'm saying anything that hasn't already been pretty abundantly documented over the last several years.

That permissive drug enforcement policy increases crime? I never read any study to that effect, much the opposite.

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

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