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Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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I don't think so. I was researching Keycloak integration with Kubernetes (a project needed it at the office). I installed it on bare metal, set-up its TLS certificates and enabled native HTTPS. While searching for integration I found a video. The person installed Keycloak Docker image, and dropped an HTTPS proxy container in front of it to enable TLS/HTTPS. If this is not both bad practice and being misinformed about…

Oh, so there's people that don't know how to use containers, so they're bad? What kind of patronising, nanny state kind of argument is that? Listen, I understand not liking containers. That's fine. But just say so, or try to give more concrete arguments to the table than "I saw a guy in a video creating an insecure container. Thus Docker creates ignorance." As if configuring servers by hand isn't prone to misconfigur…

Docker != containers. You're arguing as if the srht or generally the diy anti-kubernetes crowd was against containers. Or as if docker was the only mean of secure isolation. More likely than not you'll find them running bwrap, lxc, qemu, etc. You're missing your opponents here, it's very much the opposite of conservative sysadmins that went incompetent and don't understand the new tech. It's (imho) people that are fed up with the "click here to deploy a production server", the "infinite elastic scaling" and the fact that most of these false promises are hidden by bloated software. Nobody is saying that docker gets nothing right, just that most of the time others do more of the good and less of the bad.

> I saw a guy in a video creating an insecure container. Thus Docker creates ignorance

It's more than a guy. Once you see that kubernetes is corporate bloat you gotta ask for the responsability of the people making it. Yes it's creating people that don't understand how things are actually wired (and no, this is not a "natural" direction of history). It's making people dependent on complex stuff and it's actually hiding from mainstream knowledge the simple ways to do simple stuff. I recently had to help someone deploy stuff on an openshift hosting and i must say the experience is infuriating (not even talking about the runtime efficiency of managing the bazillion moving parts).

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Context: https://orenom.fi

Thank you, that's actually very important information. So it wasn't taken down, it was just set to private: > the repository has been made private (only contributors will be able to access the repo for now) Huge difference and imho quite ok until things are clear.

Well, from the owner's perspective, it was marked private, without any additional communication.

From a visitor's perspective, it just became a 404 page, also without explanation, so effectively taken down.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Firstly I appreciate these initiatives but I think this misses a large point of why github or gitlab is popular.

Recently a large scientific (EU) institution was wanting to coordinate efforts to have data stored inside EU - they wanted a running gitlab server (as many Prof. were just using their own local or using gitlab/github SaaS.

After contacting many EU companies no one could provide a 24x7 (reasonable uptime) services like github/gitlab with just a creditcard.

Too many EU companies suggested we self host. This institute does not have people/space to do it. They wanted Just Works.

Now what happens is that all these students get used to github/gitlab. And all future students become managers/employees - they will go to github/gitlab.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Thank you, that's actually very important information. So it wasn't taken down, it was just set to private: > the repository has been made private (only contributors will be able to access the repo for now) Huge difference and imho quite ok until things are clear.

Well, from the owner's perspective, it was marked private, without any additional communication. From a visitor's perspective, it just became a 404 page, also without explanation, so effectively taken down.

I understand taken down as removed, but I can see that one could also define it as "unavailable".

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Didn't Sourceforge open source their forge server software. IIRC it is an Apache project now.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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post #151

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I wonder if there even is public mercurial hosting available anymore. This git monoculture is starting to be a bit annoying.

For the longest time I just couldn’t see what the fuzz (about Git) was about. But after finally switching I don’t think I’d ever go back.

What VCS were you coming from, and what makes Git so much nicer?

I believe Git and Mercurial are considered to be 'about as good' by most.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Well, from the owner's perspective, it was marked private, without any additional communication. From a visitor's perspective, it just became a 404 page, also without explanation, so effectively taken down.

I understand taken down as removed, but I can see that one could also define it as "unavailable".

From a site visitor's perspective, what is the difference?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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post #85

The problem is that GitHub is so endemic, and useful for open source projects that simply need the traction/eyeballs. I wish GitHub: - had scoped labels ala. GitLab. Project custom fields _almost_ get there but they must be more visible/accessible/filterable via 'basic' issue lists. - allowed longer label descriptions, they should double the 100 character limit - and allow 4-byte Unicode... - had wider milestone scop…

>The problem is that GitHub is so endemic

If your project is worth the attention, people will join you wherever you will be.

>and useful for open source project

Embrace, extend...

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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I tried out self hosting on my $5/mo VPS and found it much easier than expected. https://jeskin.net/blog/self-hosting-git-with-stagit/

Stagit looks really nice and lightweight. I like the idea of generating static webpages, it sounds great for read only content. However, it doesn't sound very good for collaboration. Someone can come your repo but it doesn't seem easy for them to submit changes back upstream to your repo?

The best way to collaborate would be just sending patches, either with git send-email or as an attachment to a regular message. Then the author applies them and the repo/stagit will display the change.

https://git-send-email.io/

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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It is easy to give people read-only git access no SSH, if you want to share your code with the internet at large?

note: Transposing "it" and "is" has made my question look sort of passive-aggressive or sarcastic, this was accidental.

The intent was clear from the context, no worries!
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