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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Equifax seems to have been given data for a specific purpose of their client and then used it for another internal purpose.

From a GDPR perspective this would probably be seen as a massive violation exposing Equifax to serious fines.

From a security certification perspective as this is now public knowledge and the company seems to be unrepentant Equifax clients can not claim their are entrusting their data to a company with proper security controls. Equifax should fail their next security certification audit for this.

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Where I grew up public schools were measurably worse than alternatives. Using objective metrics like average number of gang wars in a given year. Since there's something like 100k public schools in the US, with very different performance and governments in charge, I don't think people here are really in a position to judge someone's parenting choices over the internets. Also by the way, public universities run about…

Yeah you raise a good point, I was in a city with generally serviceable schools. Really, I just tend to get frustrated at the belief system that all public schools are awful and any good parent should send their kids to private school. Even when the public option is ok we can't have our kids hanging out with the prole kids.

Even when they hand with the proles, they get their real education at afterschool private programs.

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"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

If I'm paying you as an employer for a tenporary full time stint, say 50 hrs. work/week and you're not actually punching in and out of time clock for me to track you, I might have suspicions that you're in fact short changing me on the time or quality of work you contracted if you're also working another job. I might be wrong, and you'd have a right to contest that, but I'd probably be right more than wrong on average.

If you are an actual employee of mine it's even more likely you are in breach.

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They're making fun of the fact that during the data breach the CISO was someone with a music degree and no background in security.

Holy fuck, I never knew this detail.

I used to work for the government on systems with extremely sensitive data. I’m talking… penitentiary consequences for data leaks. 90% of the Information Security employees didn’t even have a background in tech OR security.

You’d be surprised how incompetent an auditor can be if the security framework simply requires them to blindly fill in responses on boilerplate spreadsheets based on the department’s word alone.

For example, risk assessments are performed for all new applications requested by employees. InfoSec: Does this COTS web application have X security control which protects data in transit via encryption acceptable for use in our operating environment?

Some bozo from marketing: Yeah, I’m pretty sure.

In truth, neither of them are sure. The requester didn’t check, and the auditor saw the word “encryption” on the vendor’s website along with a green padlock in the address bar and that was good enough.

The auditor doesn’t even know how check the ciphers being used for this sketchy web application. The control also requires TLS 1.2+ due to the sensitive nature of the data. The auditor marks the security control as “Met” and approves the software request.

The auditor is completely incompetent, but is used as a pawn in an elaborate game of “security theater” to abstract away liability.

Also, even if the hypothetical security control in the example above wasn’t met, the head of marketing (System Owner) could request an exception be created to skip that security control.

Wait, qzx_pierri, you’re telling me that the security control can be skipped? How the hell is that a security CONTROL?

I don’t know, and that’s why I quit that depressing industry. To everyone reading this: Stay paranoid, and protect your data yourself if it’s on someone else’s server. "Security" (in America, at least) is often complete bullshit.

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"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

If I'm paying you as an employer for a tenporary full time stint, say 50 hrs. work/week and you're not actually punching in and out of time clock for me to track you, I might have suspicions that you're in fact short changing me on the time or quality of work you contracted if you're also working another job. I might be wrong, and you'd have a right to contest that, but I'd probably be right more than wrong on averag…

Sure but this has nothing to do with the ethical basis of using such data to discover that or the legal basis of the contractor/employer designation.

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Specified, delegated and approved by distracted executives? Criminally negligent executives, in my personal opinion.

I don’t see how any of this was the executives fault. They have no idea of computer security and hired people who they thought were competent to handle it.

Nope, the people that were 2 levels under execs hired them

Execs hired incompetent (or maybe just "profit oriented") management and that incompetence trickled down to the bottom.

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Went to public until 5th then private school through HS, all were dumpster fires in their own way. Just my .02, and while this was over a decade ago, I'm inclined to believe shitty and free is better than shitty and expensive. If your kids are even remotely motivated and smart, what they do outside school is 10,000x more important so might as well put the money towards that.

This is still just one data point. Can you compare your public HS experience to your private HS experience? Can you compare public school A to public school B? Private A to private B? A school being private doesn't magically make it great. It has to still work hard for that. A public school being good requires hard work too. But let's be honest, usually it boils down to parent involvement which is usually fueled by e…

> Rich(er) people have time and/or resources to actually be involved in their kids lives.

More commonly, to pay other people to be involved.

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First thoughts after reading this: 1. Is this legal in all jurisdictions an employee could conceivably be based in? 2. When will Equifax monetize this as a service to other companies (because you know they will).

It's already a service. "The Work Number" is their employment verification service available to anyone https://theworknumber.com

Thank fuck for GDPR lmao

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Selection bias? The person who who went to public school and didn’t do fine is not so likely to be posting on HN?

I'm sure the vast majority on HN went to public school. In my country only the absolute elite such as monarchs go to private school.

The majority of HN was schooled in USA.
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