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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by pkulak »

CharlesW wrote: post #136
pkulak wrote: post #110

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> which uncritically parrots Google "Get the Message" PR campaign. You're misunderstanding the order of events here. "I don't talk to green bubbles" has been a thing for at least five years now, which Google has very recently used in an ad campaign.

> "I don't talk to green bubbles" has been a thing for at least five years now… Almost always as a joke. And if you search HN, nearly all conversations about this PR-manufactured "green bubbles" outrage have happened since the launch of Google's campaign.

Nearly all the conversations about the PR have been since the PR? I don't doubt it. I'm saying the green bubbles thing has existed since long before that. Google ticked it up a bit, but come on. Let's not give Google PR too much credit here:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&ge...

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by gigglesupstairs »

malshe wrote: post #43

This is a clickbait. On my iPhone the green color is much darker than what the author shows in the article. Here are some images with the hex color codes for example: https://imgur.com/a/7k5dMtm

Here are the results for your image. Contrast still fails on WCAG guidelines.

https://ibb.co/sKfrZ16

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by yamazakiwi »

sicp-enjoyer wrote: post #162
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #157

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Both are good reasons to avoid such toxic people. VC's especially.

I think courting VCs already involves sacrificing your pride and doing a song and dance. Why not do a small easy thing to help close the sale?

If a VC finds importance in a specific song and dance you find silly, I would take that as a signal of their market and technology understanding.

Some topics can be deal breakers, you don't have to marry the first VC you talk to, or court them all.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by ericmay »

scatters wrote: post #204
ericmay wrote: post #113

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Did you mean WhatsApp doesn't have anywhere near the same lock in as the Messages app? I don't know what you mean by "same lock in as Apple". I also don't know what you would mean by lock in with the Messages app. What's locked in? I can use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, WeChat, or any number of communication apps on my iPhone effortlessly.

Apple's messages app isn't really an app; it comes preinstalled on the phone, you can't remove it or substitute it with another app, and you can't install it on non-Apple hardware. The lock-in is obvious: if you're part of Apple-oriented chat groups you can't switch to Android without losing access to those groups, degrading the experience for everyone, or convincing each one of those groups to make the switch to a m…

> Apple's messages app isn't really an app; it comes preinstalled on the phone, you can't remove it or substitute it with another app, and you can't install it on non-Apple hardware.

I'm not sure, but I don't think you can actually uninstall the default SMS from Android phones either without having another app installed at a minimum and then I bet similar to Messages if you were to somehow uninstall that app then the default app would appear since it's probably part of the core operating system (similar to other basic functionality like settings or a phone app to receive calls).

I don't know what you mean by you cannot substitute Messages with another app. If I didn't want to use Messages I would just disable all settings and remove it from the home screen and use whatever I wanted instead just fine.

You are correct that you cannot install Messages on non-Apple hardware. Not all software is open source or available for all platforms. For example I cannot install Playstation software on my Xbox, nor can I buy a Nest Thermostat and install a competitor's software on it (without hacking both of course). There are games that are made that aren't created with support for macOS. Etc.

> if you're part of Apple-oriented chat groups you can't switch to Android without losing access to those groups

What is an Apple-oriented chat group?

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Post by artificialLimbs »

lupire wrote: post #146
chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118

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I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

#1 is great. A gold digger (and a low intelligence one at that) waving their red flag at first contact.

The vast majority of women would rather have a successful man as a mate than the alternative.

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Post by School-Cotton »

taylodl wrote: post #95
nottorp wrote: post #63

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Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

Using Facebook to do messaging? No thanks! Sure, when communicating with international friends I use WhatsApp because that appears to be what the rest of the world uses, but here in the States? No. We don't trust Zuckerberg. And yes, iMessage group chats are very much a thing here in the States and SMS group chats in general. And also yes, there's always that techie friend with an Android and makes your whole convers…

> but here in the States? No. We don't trust Zuckerberg

Completely false. I have multiple group chats in Messenger. The people who “don’t trust Zuckerberg” enough to not use his messaging products are a tiny minority of people in the US.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by School-Cotton »

taylodl wrote: post #168
brokenkebab2 wrote: post #127

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I didn't like FB well before it became fashionable, but I don't understand your logic here: what is that exactly that you can't entrust WhatsApp to send, but you can trust Apple, or your mobile carrier?

Apple's iMessage is secured end-to-end, your mobile carrier can't see the message. As soon as the box goes green then any intermediary, including your mobile carrier and your friend's mobile carrier, can read the message and/or make it available to law enforcement. In a U.S. court of law Apple has stood up to authority and pointed out they can't provide the messages requested as they're locked even to Apple. Facebook…

WhatsApp definitely claims end-to-end encryption. There’s a bubble telling you so at the top of every new WhatsApp thread.

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Post by trissylegs »

drewzero1 wrote: post #150
henriquez wrote: post #8

It reminds me how MacOS has the icon for any networked Windows PC as a “blue screen of death” monitor

I found it especially funny that it still uses that icon for Linux machines with Samba shares.

Unless you enable fruit vfs then it thinks it's a mac but doesn't not what model you so get a big question mark.

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Post by pipeline_peak »

r12343a_19 wrote: post #164
pipeline_peak wrote: post #50

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To be fair, he could’ve cut to the chase sooner. Since it was a UI UX article, HN readers probably aren’t aware that it’s a contrast between fonts and background, not blue vs green or green vs dark green.

HN readers are aware about poor contrast. Eg, your comment (which seems tame) is downvoted and has some lovely light color on light background combo.

What a weirdly snide comment.
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