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Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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How is wanting to meet a partner "weakness"?

Loneliness can make people do dumb things, like waste money on scammy dating apps that artificially block you out unless you fetch the money.

Calling loneliness a "weakness" says a lot more about you than dating apps.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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> unless you decide to meet up right away, the other party immediately loses interest Well, yeah. You should meet up right away. What else you gonna do? Flirt over text for weeks?

Actually get to known each other before we go over for a drink or lunch, instead of hurrying it up just to have an awkward time?

You can get to know each other in person. Why would it be any more awkward than over text.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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If you've already graduated university, aren't part of a religious community, and don't want to do the bar/club scene, what does that leave? Friends of friends, or family introductions? Activity groups like sports/dance? Your workplace, or the gym? Neighbours? Most of these are extremely hit and miss, and a lot of people have no interest in being hit on while trying to do their job or work out. Dating sites/apps abso…

Dating apps do not work because you are not actually present. You have the attention of hundreds of people at the same time, so unless you decide to meet up right away, the other party immediately loses interest. Most of the people are just looking for sex or something less serious, and the apps heavily paywall males. They are cancer. Meeting through friends is probably the safest, as that at least gives you some saf…

> Most of the people are just looking for sex or something less serious...

Not in my limited experience browsing the 30-40 range in my area. There are a handful of profiles where it's clearly an ENM couple looking for playmates, but almost all the rest have the exhausted-sounding language of "serious only please", "no hookups/nsa", "please don't be a weirdo/cheater", "please have your shit together", etc.

> ... and the apps heavily paywall males. They are cancer.

Yes, absolutely. The current state of affairs sucks for everyone. But I'm not sure if meeting people at a bar is necessarily any guarantee of finding someone who isn't "completely nuts".

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I don't get it. Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? All the options people have are using toxic apps which entire business model is to undermine the self-esteem of young men and scamming them out of their money. And then people wonder where the mental health problems and mass shootings come from. I really don'…

Well how about we start a non-profit dating app? I was just wondering how much it could cost to run the backend with todays cloud services. With what Tinder is charging for boosts and subscriptions I feel like they're raking it in. But I've never developed and deployed a fully cloud based app, just used a bunch of their services off and on.

It’s not non-profit afaik but doesn’t plenty of fish [0] essentially provide this service?

The problem is the population has already been divided and Match exists using predatory practices. You could maybe dethrone it using regulations or an organic campaign.

0 [ https://www.pof.com ]

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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OkCupid was awesome. Can someone please make another one? We need a site dedicated to Test Taking! OkCupid wasn't just about dating; it was about the tests you could create and take. It was awesome. The dating was also based on tests and archetypes OkCupid created and they were pretty good. We need something pure like that from the early 2000s.

Could you elaborate on what OkCupid was like in the early 2000s? I've only known it for a few years.

You started off by taking these matching profile tests that grouped you into an archetype based on your responses. The archetype test was also optional it wasn't required to use the site. (Not sure if it was based on orientation but it was certainly gender based.)

There were a series of archetypes that were your ideal matches and you could search by peoples archetypes if they shared it. (I believe you could keep it private, too.. I can't totally remember.)

Otherwise, the entire site was geared towards creating tests and taking tests. Their test creation system was awesome. I had several tests on tv shows and entertainment. You could get really detailed with the response types and question structures.

OkCupid themselves, as outlined in this thread, shared their data freely and collected it without a bunch of invasive coding. People were literally creating data collection tests and we took them for fun. That's how you collect data!

The entire site had a much more mellow approach to dating then the alternatives at the time, yet it was still geared towards matches not just sex.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I don't get it. Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? All the options people have are using toxic apps which entire business model is to undermine the self-esteem of young men and scamming them out of their money. And then people wonder where the mental health problems and mass shootings come from. I really don'…

Why would this need to be government run?

It could also be built using the Signal model.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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>But a bi dude, in 2010 (and still today) you simply wouldn't get match with women if you write bi This is simply not true. Maybe I'm just hot enough to overcome the queer disgust? I don't feel like I'm that hot.

> This is simply not true. I removed the point about today since I haven't been dating in a few years, but I stand by the 2010 comment, you could find a few female stars being openly bisexual for example but it was incredibly rare for male stars, which is indicative of how hot it was perceived at the time.

My lived experience just completely disagrees with what you are saying. Perhaps it's an age difference thing. The gay men have had more of a problem with me than the straight ladies.

I gravitate towards bi/pan people anyways due to my androgynous features.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Actually get to known each other before we go over for a drink or lunch, instead of hurrying it up just to have an awkward time?

You can get to know each other in person. Why would it be any more awkward than over text.

I don't know about you, but I don't usually meet up with someone just together that I don't know at all. It would be nice to talk at least for a while. It's different when you meet someone already in a social situation.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I honestly view online dating as a low-yield random effort. My last gf was on Match. I’ve been on dates from the other sites, though Hinge seems to trend too young.

The cost isn’t prohibitive to me so I just go with it.

The one thing that should be clear to everyone is that no matter what, the most important aspect of dating is to be as geographically close to your perceived dating pool as possible.

So figure out the two or three basic requirements you have (politics, culture) and try to live where those things are common. No amount of effort online or not is going to improve your chances of meeting viable partners if you live too far away. I think you really need to be within 15 minutes or less. As a man, I firmly believe this is a top filter for women when looking at profiles.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Whats inconvinient to the pollitically correct narrative is people with 0 scientific literacy making bold claims about society based on surveys on extremely sampled social studies. Doing a study on how "dateable" black women are based on a specific dating app in 2010 is like making claims on everyones eating habits based on a survey on a Burger king drive through. It will probably not be a very good survey. They also…

Far from your Burger King straw men, there's even a very famous study, out of the UK if I'm not mistaken, that confirmed the thesis of black women being the least attractive group across the whole spectrum of major ethnic groups. I mean, there must be one group, out of all, that would score lower than the others ain't there? Reality doesn't have to be politically correct at the end of the day.

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