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I’ve heard a lot of “data is the new oil” talk and the inevitability of google’s dominance yet I’m inclined to agree with you. Stable diffusion was a big wakeup call where it was clear how much value freedom and creativity really had. The ethics problem is an artifact of googles model of trying to keep their AI under lock and key and carefully controlled and opaque to outsiders in how the sausage gets made and what i…

I agree the ethicist types are very lame but if they were trying to be opaque and obscure how the sausage is made I don't think they would have released as many AI papers they have over past decade. It also seems to me that imagen is way better than stable diffusion. They're not aiming for a product that caters to AI creatives. They aiming for tools that would benefit a 3B+ userbase.

If you want to hire good researchers, you have to let them publish.

Good researchers won't work somewhere that doesn't allow the publishing of papers. And without good researchers, you won't be on the forefront of tech. Thats why nearly all tech companies publish.

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Google continues to blow my mind with these models, but I think their ethics strategy is totally misguided and will result in them failing to capture this market. The original Google Search gave similarly never-before-seen capabilities to people, and you could use it for good or bad - Google did not seem to have any ethical concerns around, for example, letting children use their product and come across NSFW content…

It makes sense though. The biggest threat to Google right now isn't some scrappy startup eating their lunch. It's the looming regulatory action over antitrust and privacy that could weaken or destroy their core business. As this is a political problem (not a technical one), they don't want to do anything that could upset politicians or turn public opinion against them. Personally, I doubt they have serious ethical co…

And that concern is well placed. Having the Google brand attached makes it a far more juicy target for newspapers...

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What everyone is missing is that these AI image/video generators lack _taste_. These tools just regurgitate a mishmash of images from it's training set, without any "feeling". What you're going to tell me that you can train them to have feeling? It's never going to happen.

Making a definitive statement with the word "never" is a bold move.

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I’ll be honest, as someone who worked in the film industry for a decade, this thread is depressing. It’s not the technology, it’s all the people in these comments who have never worked in the industry clamouring for its demise. One could brush it off as tech heads being over exuberant, but it’s the lack of understanding of how much fine control goes into each and every shot of a film that is depressing. If I, as a cr…

What about adding this feature to your creative workflow, for fast prototyping.

I've played with DALL-E, I'm not able to paint but I was able to generate good looking paintings and it felt amazing, like getting new power, I felt like Neo when he learn martial art in The Matrix. And I realized that AI may be the new bicycle of the mind, like the personal computers and internet changed our way to work, think and live, AI may now allow us to get new capabilities, extending our limits.

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I've only had awesome experiences with Midjourney when it comes to generating non-white prompts. Here's some examples I did last month: https://imgur.com/a/6jitj73

The fact that white is the default is already problematic.

"Default" makes it sound like a deliberate decision or setting, but that is not how these models work. But I guess it would be trivial to actually make a setting to autmatically add specific terms (gender, race, style, ...) to all prompts if that is a desired feature

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I actually think it's the opposite, AI will probably be writing the stories and humans might occasionally film a few scenes. ~95% of TV shows and movies are cookie-cutter content, with cookie-cutter acting and production values, with the same hooks and the same tropes regurgitated over and over again. Heck they can't even figure out how to make new IP so they keep making reruns of the same old stuff like Star Wars, M…

Why would I want to watch AI-generated content?

It'll eventually get to the point where it's high quality and the media you consume will be generated just for you based on your individual preferences, rather than a curated list of already made options made for widespread audiences.

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All this stuff makes me incredibly anxious about the future of art and artists. It can already very difficult to make a living and tons of artists are horrifically exploited by content mills and vfx shops and stuff like this is just going to devalue their work even more

If everyone can be an artist, nobody can!

Re: Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models

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Google continues to blow my mind with these models, but I think their ethics strategy is totally misguided and will result in them failing to capture this market. The original Google Search gave similarly never-before-seen capabilities to people, and you could use it for good or bad - Google did not seem to have any ethical concerns around, for example, letting children use their product and come across NSFW content…

Why did you create a throwaway to post this? I've seen a lot of Stable Diffusion promoters on various platforms recently, with similarly new accounts. What is up with that?

Re: Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models

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I’ve heard a lot of “data is the new oil” talk and the inevitability of google’s dominance yet I’m inclined to agree with you. Stable diffusion was a big wakeup call where it was clear how much value freedom and creativity really had. The ethics problem is an artifact of googles model of trying to keep their AI under lock and key and carefully controlled and opaque to outsiders in how the sausage gets made and what i…

> History will remember them as villains. Interesting analogy. Google, like the priests, is acting out of mix of good intentions (protecting the public from perceived dangers) and self-interest (maintaining secular power, vs. a competitive advantage in the AI space). In the case of the priests, time has shown that their good intentions were misguided. I have a pretty hard time believing that history will be as unkind…

History will treat them the same way residential native schools are being treated now. At the time taking these kids from their homes and giving them a real education which gives them a path to modern society was seen as protecting minorities. Today anyone associated with residential schools is seen as creating great harm to minorities.

In the name of protecting [minorities, child, women, lgbt, etc] many harms will be done.

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