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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by puzzlingcaptcha »

rendall wrote: post #210

I don't understand what this is. I read the explanation but didn't fully understand it. It's an OS one can load onto a smart TV, replacing whatever is there? Like, if I had a Samsung TV that began advertising at me, this could overwrite the UI? If so, I looked for a hardware compatibility list and saw only Raspberry Pi, which confused me.

I think it is meant as an open-source product OEMs can put on their TVs instead of some in-house Android TV derivative.

Sadly it's a non-starter without widevine certification.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by stragies »

puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #211
rendall wrote: post #210

I don't understand what this is. I read the explanation but didn't fully understand it. It's an OS one can load onto a smart TV, replacing whatever is there? Like, if I had a Samsung TV that began advertising at me, this could overwrite the UI? If so, I looked for a hardware compatibility list and saw only Raspberry Pi, which confused me.

I think it is meant as an open-source product OEMs can put on their TVs instead of some in-house Android TV derivative. Sadly it's a non-starter without widevine certification.

Is "capable of Widevine certification" not tantamount to "Has HW/FW/SW in place to securely lock out the user/owner, and introduce backdoors"?

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by toastal »

If you buy a nice panel, you won't be able to color calibrate it because of the use of Wayland; Wayland doesn't support color management yet.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by leidenfrost »

comboy wrote: post #152
lrvick wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do, which is why you should never connect them to the internet.

Seriously? Well not connecting them to the internet works less and less, Amazon is rolling out their 900Mhz mesh with echo devices and there's LTE-M, NB-IoT and such. The idea of not letting a device connect to the Internet is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless you live in a faraday cage (which is becoming more and more tempting). Oh, correction, thanks to mesh networks like that of Alexa living in a Faraday…

If you build your own house maybe you can. And then run an access point and a repeater for 4g, like LTT did

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by cal85 »

rendall wrote: post #210

I don't understand what this is. I read the explanation but didn't fully understand it. It's an OS one can load onto a smart TV, replacing whatever is there? Like, if I had a Samsung TV that began advertising at me, this could overwrite the UI? If so, I looked for a hardware compatibility list and saw only Raspberry Pi, which confused me.

My first assumption was it’s just an OS for installing on a little computer like a Raspberry Pi, for plugging into a TV or monitor via HDMI.

But you’re right it’s unclear, this bit of the intro seems to imply you could install it straight to a TV: “Plasma Bigscreen turns your TV or setup-box into a fully hackable device”. So far I haven’t heard of any smart TV that lets you install a new OS, might be possible with hacks though.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by chasil »

safety1st wrote: post #202
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

Is this essentially Lineage for smart TVs?

Can the vendor OS be wiped from these devices?

If so, is there a list?

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by brodouevencode »

safety1st wrote: post #202
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

What is a "10' experience"?

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by manholio »

Why would I need to install an operating system on the flimsy SoC the manufacturer embedded in my TV, with the sole intention of turning it into an advertising terminal? How fast will that hardware - software combo go out of date compared to the useful life of a TV? I own a 10 year old, non-Android Sony Bravia TV that looks superb, do they support that?

Sorry, but I don't see it as a problem worth solving. Just make sure your TV is airgaped, use it as dumb terminal and deliver signal from a suitable and well maintained device.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by safety1st »

brodouevencode wrote: post #217
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

What is a "10' experience"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface

There are 10' experiences for Linux (Kodi, Plex, and Steam Big Picture are what I know of), but these aren't integrated into the desktop, they are focused on TV/movies and gaming respectively, so KDE focusing on this problem is something new.

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