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The real irony of the charge-at-night model is that you miss the single biggest source of error in human life: lack of sleep. Accurate sleep measurement is, on a day-to-day basis, far more valuable than many of the features advertised on this system. That said, the red night vision setting, dive computer capability, and the iPhone's satellite messaging capability are pretty awesome. Combined with the ability for the…
> Accurate sleep measurement is, on a day-to-day basis, far more valuable than many of the features advertised on this system. What's a good consumer device nowadays for that use case? I remember looking for some good sleep tracking (and heart health tracking) a couple of years and got hopelessly lost.
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I don’t think this is actually the target segment. This is who the targeted consumers for this device aspire to be, not who they actually are.
Kind of... Apple's sleep tracking is by far the best on the market[1]. However if your watch doesn't last many days it's a pain in the ass to use it that way, because you charge it overnight instead of tracking your sleep. [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=LPqtfC70QTU
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The real irony of the charge-at-night model is that you miss the single biggest source of error in human life: lack of sleep. Accurate sleep measurement is, on a day-to-day basis, far more valuable than many of the features advertised on this system. That said, the red night vision setting, dive computer capability, and the iPhone's satellite messaging capability are pretty awesome. Combined with the ability for the…
The Apple Watch charging routine works best with 15-20 minute spurts when available. I will wear it to sleep, and charge it when I wake up for less than 30 minutes as I ready for a run or gym session. Then I charge it again while I shower. I never worry about battery life unless I travel.
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Dumb question, if I may, having never used a GPS smartwatch: How easy to use are the Garmin watches on the trails? Can I download a certain route (like from Alltrails or Trailforks or Gaia) onto it and then have it position + route me in the woods, with just GPS and no cell signal? I don't really want a smartwatch (ugh, slack on my wrist? no thanks), but a backpacking safety companion would be awesome!
You can certainly download a GPX route from services like Alltrails to the Garmin Fenix 7 for purely offline routing—that's one of the watch's strongest features. Additionally, you can do simple ad-hoc routing on the watch itself, while you're out on the trail, also totally offline. For more complex ad-hoc routing, it can be easier to design a route on the Garmin Explore app on your phone and then sync it to your wat…
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Never heard of that. https://www.axiomwatches.fr/en/ This? Very informative website. Also I thought we talk about smart watches with GPS. Like 50 years ago we already had high precision mechanical watches that you dont need to charge ever...
> Never heard of that Well, I never heard of that too. I wear Citizen. [0] > Also I thought we talk about smart watches with GPS I had a lengthy response here, but it was throttled. To sum up: since the smartwatches became a thing I attempted multiple times to justify why I should buy one, but the need to constantly monitor it's charge level, along with my smartphone and whatever else (bt-headset, tablet, another sma…
If you're concerned about battery life then Garmin has models which can run for over a month, and have solar charging.
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Carry a small battery pack.
The latest Garmin devices have much longer battery life with equivalent functionality, and can extend battery life with solar charging. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/854515
Does it make phone calls?
How can they call 36 hours of battery life "long"? The $799 version Garmin Fenix 7 solar (which they seem to be targeting) has an 18-22 days of battery life.
> 18-22 days of battery life. Only in "smartwatch" mode - ie. pretty much everything is turned off. In GPS mode, you get 73 hours (which is more than the 60 you get on the Watch Ultra in conservation mode, yes, but vastly lower than "18-22 days"!)
You can leave the other sensors like HRM and pulseox enabled when outside of "activities," and bluetooth is connected by default when in an activity or not, so I don't know where your "everything is turned off" assertion comes from.
So this is 73 hours of actually being active. Even if you're moving all day, you wouldn't ever set it to record GPS data while you're resting, and you'd over double the battery life from what you describe.
I'm a moderately active person, riding and/or running several hours a week, and have an older Garmin device with HRM always on and pulseox enabled during sleep. I charge the thing maybe once a week, usually during a shower after a run. There's really just no way you can squint at this and come to the conclusion that Apple is in the same ballpark on battery life.
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> 18-22 days of battery life. Only in "smartwatch" mode - ie. pretty much everything is turned off. In GPS mode, you get 73 hours (which is more than the 60 you get on the Watch Ultra in conservation mode, yes, but vastly lower than "18-22 days"!)
On the Garmin devices, you start recording when you are performing an activity. The idea is that when you're running, riding, whatever, you start recording it as needed. The GPS doesn't run unless you're active. You can leave the other sensors like HRM and pulseox enabled when outside of "activities," and bluetooth is connected by default when in an activity or not, so I don't know where your "everything is turned of…
I know, I've owned and used Garmin watches since 2011.
> your "everything is turned off" assertion comes from.
Garmin's own measure of battery life - GPS, Pulse Ox, etc. all turned off => smartwatch mode.
> There's really just no way you can squint at this and come to the conclusion that Apple is in the same ballpark on battery life.
Indeed not.
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Already preordered and am looking forward to using it for freediving. The UX on dive watches has long been a nightmare, they are expensive, and the replaceable batteries open them up to waterproofing issues. Most computers also treat freediving/spearfishing as an afterthought so I'll probably create my own software for it. Maybe a business opportunity here...
Interesting. Shearwater is the dominant player in both dive computers and freediving watches. They don't meet your needs?