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EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Post by SoftTalker »

brnt wrote: post #73
JKCalhoun wrote: post #67

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Do people have "garages" and yearly checkups? Maybe it's a European thing? In the U.S. we have Jiffy Lube and the "checkup" is just another way for them to squeeze the customer for cash. We are so distrustful of auto mechanics in general that, no, I don't think most of us go looking for a yearly fleecing, ha ha (not funny, really).

It's mandatory here in Europe, if you care about being road-legal.

In many parts of the USA there are no required inspections of any kind.

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Post by NegativeLatency »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #81
tapoxi wrote: post #66

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I'm really not sure how my Volkswagen will not let me drive because of something I said on Twitter. Electric utilities are also regulated monopolies, they can't just cut my power without running afoul of a ton of laws. Even in such a ridiculous scenario, you can make your own electricity. You can't make your own gasoline.

I can get gas from multiple gas stations with cash without proving my identity. I can't do that with electricity right now.

Solar?

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Post by lostapathy »

noirbot wrote: post #160
sephamorr wrote: post #130

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Interesting perspective. Another view: solar panels on your roof, using your car battery for your house nighttime needs means that during doomsday your energy intensive lifestyle doesn't have to change at all.

Ah yes, the roof of my building where I'm on a middle floor. I'll start lobbying the board to install solar for just me to use. The problem with a lot of this is that the more "responsible" you're already living, the less reasonable the next "responsible" thing is to do. Going solar/off grid is only really possible if you live on a lot of land where you're the only resident, which is otherwise generally not recommend…

To reply to the GP’s point here … if you live in apartment you also aren’t stockpiling Jerry cans of gs, either.

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Post by [deleted] »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #173
sandworm101 wrote: post #87

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>> There are very very very few places without electricity in the world. Today. Right now. This is happening. Not Africa or Antarctica. In Canada. In a national park during a busy long weekend. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/be-prepared-officials-warn-of-po... " Should the situation worsen, Richard Ireland, Jasper's mayor, recommended residents and visitors to the park ensure their essential electric devices remain full…

> ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity. They could also advise that "your EV batteries remain fully charged since EV charging stations rely on electricity."

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Post by epistasis »

osigurdson wrote: post #169
epistasis wrote: post #152

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Yes that is a story, but what is its relevance to what I am writing?

Perhaps because you suggest that the areas OP is referring to have near zero population when clearly that is not the case.

That is not the sort of area I was referring to. This area is served both by electricity and gas stations. And the quote has a reminder that, just as with essential electric devices getting charged, such as an EV, people should keep a full tank of gas.

And I would note that it's far easier to keep a full charge when you do your charging at home than it is when you need to leave the house to prepare and fill up on gas.

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Post by snuxoll »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #180
snuxoll wrote: post #157

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> I don’t feel as strongly about separated bike infrastructure, mainly because my experience with it is that it’s more dangerous than riding in auto lanes, and that it creates an illusion of separation that both heightens that danger and heightens the dangerous attitudes of drivers trying to navigate it. That's why I specifically said "dedicated infrastructure", painted bicycle gutters are NOT proper bicycle infrastr…

> painted bicycle gutters are NOT proper bicycle infrastructure either To be clear, where I live there are recently installed “dedicated” bike routes which are separated from car traffic by concrete barriers and curbs, and also separated from pedestrian traffic by curbs and intermittent heavy ceramic planters. The problem is that the separations are interrupted to allow turns and deliveries. All of the separation is…

Growing pains will be around for decades, unfortunately. Cycling needs to reach a critical mass before cities and regions decide to start de-prioritizing cars to alleviate exactly the issues you have with improved infrastructure. The Netherlands has been working on their infrastructure for over 40 years and keep finding new and unexpected problems that you simply don't discover until you have more bicycles than cars, like parking (when you start down this path you just imagine putting posts everywhere for people to lock up to, eventually you need dedicated parking facilities just to keep bikes from littering the streets like cars already do)!

We'll get there someday, every great journey begins with the first step, so until we catch up I wouldn't fault you for continuing to take a travel lane.

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Post by NegativeLatency »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #67
brnt wrote: post #49

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Doesn't your garage handle that for you at the yearly checkup?

Do people have "garages" and yearly checkups? Maybe it's a European thing? In the U.S. we have Jiffy Lube and the "checkup" is just another way for them to squeeze the customer for cash. We are so distrustful of auto mechanics in general that, no, I don't think most of us go looking for a yearly fleecing, ha ha (not funny, really).

I’m hard pressed to imagine a situation where I’d take my car to a jiffy lube place, strongly prefer my own 3rd party mechanic that I trust (I live in the US)

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Post by katbyte »

epistasis wrote: post #204
sandworm101 wrote: post #170

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A huge number of people are about to lose electricity at precisely the time they most need it, should they need to flee in an EV. Lack of electricity is not a rare occurrence.

From the exact same quote, gas doesn't get pumped when the electricity goes out either: > Jasper's mayor, recommended residents and visitors to the park ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity. I think there's a huge logical gap that people have when it comes to EVs. The number of places with functioning gas p…

I can keep a couple jerry cans of gas around and toss them in the back of a ICE to get 150-200% of my range, or share with people in need. You cannot do this with an ev.

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Post by tapoxi »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #81
tapoxi wrote: post #66

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I'm really not sure how my Volkswagen will not let me drive because of something I said on Twitter. Electric utilities are also regulated monopolies, they can't just cut my power without running afoul of a ton of laws. Even in such a ridiculous scenario, you can make your own electricity. You can't make your own gasoline.

I can get gas from multiple gas stations with cash without proving my identity. I can't do that with electricity right now.

There are plenty of free charging stations out there. The closest one to my house is 5 minutes away at a grocery store.
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