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Its easier to get opioids than it is to buy weed in some States. I wonder why?

How would you get opioids if you actually wanted to? Weed you can ask around on the street and eventually you'll find someone. Are you gonna break your arm to get a script? Doctors don't prescribe that so liberally anymore, they haven't for years. I don't think it's accurate that it's easier to get opiates than Marijuana, except in really certain cases like after you undergo a procedure

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I find kratom superior to cannabis in this regard. Of course kratom is not without concerns, but in the scheme of things they're just unpleasant rather than deadly.

>I find kratom superior to cannabis in this regard. Of course kratom is not without concerns, but in the scheme of things they're just unpleasant rather than deadly. Is your implication here that cannabis is deadly, or am I misunderstanding your point?

Kratom has abuse potential and requires mindful tapering to get off if used on a daily basis. Nothing fatal but I'm trying to acknowledge that it is not without some concern.

I have chronic pain and some headspace stuff that it really helps with but at this point my relationship with it could be construed as, um, er, addicted -- but same thing with coffee.

Cannabis can be psychologically addicting (a close friend is a chronic cannabis user who wheezes like a 2 pack a day cigarette smoker). It is not for everyone but should absolutely be legal everywhere.

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>I find kratom superior to cannabis in this regard. Of course kratom is not without concerns, but in the scheme of things they're just unpleasant rather than deadly. Is your implication here that cannabis is deadly, or am I misunderstanding your point?

Maybe not, I read that as compared to opioids, both Cannabis and Kratom being safer, with this person saying Kratom is more useful than Cannabis for this. Hopefully I read that right!

You did indeed. Thanks!

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Nah, I have chronic pain. Muscle stuff (back, hips). And arthritis. They're insantly worse the moment I consume. I know it's hard for those who enjoy cannabis to understand this. But for me it's a highly unpleasant drug. Maybe the most unpleasant of the various recreational substances I've taken over the year. For me it's pain and paranoia. In the milieux I was in in my 20s it was constantly around, and wow, was I ev…

I don't know if this will help you but: Cannabis tends to amplify whatever you are thinking about. If you are mentally focused on the pain that will almost certainly be counter productive. For paranoia, a trick that works for me is to mentally/consciously call out the paranoia and acknowledge that it is exaggerated/not real and instead caused by the cannabis. As soon as I do that it disappears.

K, yeah... but why?

There's little pleasure in the substance. No value to me.

Sorry, cannabis lovers, but you need to stop proselytizing.

I get you like it. But it also kind of sucks.

100% legal here I could walk down the road and buy it... and I couldn't be bothered.

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Maybe not, I read that as compared to opioids, both Cannabis and Kratom being safer, with this person saying Kratom is more useful than Cannabis for this. Hopefully I read that right!

You did indeed. Thanks!

And I misunderstood. My apologies.

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It's still crazy to me that I was just given hydros when I got my wisdom teeth out at 18. I didn't even need them, I was barely sore.

That's changed a lot. I had hydrocodone prescribed after mine (~15 years ago?). On the other hand, my son just had his out and got 800mg ibuprofen and 625mg tylenol alternating. Seemed to do okay as long as he kept on the schedule.

I had the same prescription about 10 years ago, I didn't even bother filling it because I barely had any pain.

High-dose alternating ibuprofen & acetaminophen seems to be the go-to regimen nowadays, with oxycodone only for severe pain control and only in combination with acetaminophen. Apparently oxycodone and acetaminophen have synergistic effects; anecdotally, when someone I know had a major inpatient surgery recently, they said that the oxycodone made them feel like shit unless they took the acetaminophen along with it.

I don't know why they use high-dose ibuprofen instead of meloxicam, but I guess there are good reasons for it (maybe greater risk of GI damage?).

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Weed is a plant that can rot. This makes its transport more finicky, and more bulky. Pills are much easier to transport, particularly fentanyl with its small dosing amount. And one of the most dangerous things is meth, since recently it’s now being developed from shelf-stable chemicals. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...

THC/CBD containing edibles, oils and capsules come to mind.

The problem is that in an illicit market, there isn‘t QA to make sure what you‘re getting is of consistent quality, which is why I don‘t like getting edibles in such places.

I mean, there are test kits, I just don‘t want to bother.

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