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Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Post by AlexandrB »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #72
nemothekid wrote: post #11

I like that they asked actual users, and provided actual examples; it's something I've always felt off about Instagram's Reels vs TikTok. However the takeaway is that your TikTok feed is curated by hand by artisan robots vs Instagram is curated by lizards who only care about data. Both companies are completely data driven with some amazing engineers; but why is the Reels product boring, while TikTok is engaging has t…

> I think this effort to chase TikTok isn't going to pan out because "regular" people aren't posting to Instagram. For me that isn't the case - I follow mostly "regular" people and enjoy it, but... The problem I have with Instagram is that when I open the app I want to see the photos that people I've followed have posted since I last opened, it in time order. Yet It's quite a struggle not to see reels or suggested po…

Ironically by pushing Reels so hard Instagram has been TikTok's best promoter. A large portion of reels have a TikTok watermark.

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Post by hackflip »

irq wrote: post #24
petesergeant wrote: post #19

If you thought Cambridge Analytica was bad, wait 'til you find out what a China-based company can do with detailed preference and arousal data from young people.

This is what keeps me off Tiktok. I feel like I’m losing my mind even having to make a judgement like this, but I trust Facebook more than China. Only a tiny bit, but it’s there.

The Devil you know

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Post by bko »

SilverBirch wrote: post #188

> If Instagram wants to capture TikTok's magical human touch, it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper. I think this is really funny. The conclusion I would draw is slightly different - that Instagram isn't Tiktok and it's never going to be Tiktok. You can make Instagram's algorithm exactly like Tiktok and it still won't be like Tiktok because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram,…

I don't get what's wrong with running a social media company that caters towards older people. Not everything has to be geared for 15-35 year olds. Presumably younger people will age into this product so it's not like the user base will literally die off. For instance, once you have a kid and people start using facebook to coordinate and communicate, you're kind of forced on it. As more people you know are on it, you're more likely to engage. If anything, the younger crowd is more ephemeral and likely to move on.

I get that advertisers pay more to target a younger audience, but that's fine. It's offset by less competition in the space targeting older people

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Post by gkilmain »

SilverBirch wrote: post #188

> If Instagram wants to capture TikTok's magical human touch, it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper. I think this is really funny. The conclusion I would draw is slightly different - that Instagram isn't Tiktok and it's never going to be Tiktok. You can make Instagram's algorithm exactly like Tiktok and it still won't be like Tiktok because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram,…

> it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper

I thought you were going to call this out. It should read "something more shallow"

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Post by uncommonshaman »

In a better world, each social app would know its place and would hone that to a fine edge. But there's no incentive to do that, there's no infinite growth there. Social apps should be narrowly focused tools that do their job perfectly, with very little overlap between. For what it's worth, I don't think any app can expand much past its original focus anyway, but the fact that they try spoils the experience.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

saurik wrote: post #89
IgorPartola wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a millennial I can tell you exactly why TikTok is better: 1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work. 2. Reels are often…

> 1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work. OMG this... a million times this :/. YouTube has similar issues--where you wat…

I had one of those crop up in the reels carousel and freaked out because I very nearly tapped it by accident because there's no way to undo algorithm views on IG*

I'm as disgusted with the managers who think it's ok to push that content to people as I am with the content itself.

* FYI on YouTube I've had decent success correcting the algorithm if you go in and remove the video that started it from your watch history.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

xmprt wrote: post #159
mypalmike wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter just turned it off one day a few years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It actually blows my mind how Twitter decided to kill Vine when it was very clear that they had an amazing opportunity. Vine was still very popular when they axed it especially considering how many of the popular TikTok and YouTube creators today were originally big on Vine.

Starting to wonder if it was bias towards what they consider "valuable" users on Twitter e.g increasingly irrelevant celebrities, literal twitter addicts and journalists and how they didn't use it. Rather than understanding they could build the breeding ground for the next round of creators/celebs/influencers.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

bluehorseray wrote: post #85

I think Meta really screwed up by not creating a stand-alone Reels app and instead trying to integrate it with Instagram. As someone who doesn't really like Meta as a company, I would admittedly be interested in trying out a totally new video-centric app released by them. But instead all they did was make instagram a little worse. I mean they already had instagram videos, shoe-horning a fifth tab at the bottom isn't…

They did go through a period of releasing these experiments as extra apps but then they never push them beyond the first week and then wonder why they fail.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

pleb_nz wrote: post #34
nixcraft wrote: post #14

Now ask the same question for YouTube shorts ;) Hah. Google is pushing shorts hard these days. Honestly, they need to give an option not to show shorts. In most cases, shorts are either from TikTok from the same content creator or re-uploaded by some random person. Even if I liked topic X on shorts, it never suggests similar shorts. It is hard to believe that Google cannot crack the correct algo to show interesting r…

Personally I don't want shorts on YouTube. I use and like you tube for longer content. If I wanted short content I would create an account with instatok and tikagram or whatever the next thing will be called. Every week or so I have to go through and click not interested on all shorts suggestions. I second they need an option to hide. I've sent feedback to YouTube numerous times and I know others have, but my guess i…

I'd honestly prefer "Longs" put a list of 1+ hour content on my front page. That's what I'm here for.
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