Aaron Swartz would be thrilled.
Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay
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#212Gives them until 2025. Why not retroactive?
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#213This doesn't seem right. Instead, the author should be forced to send a copy to the whitehouse when they send it to the journal, and the whithouse should make it available for free as a government output.
Send it to Sci-hub.
Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay
#214This doesn't seem right. Instead, the author should be forced to send a copy to the whitehouse when they send it to the journal, and the whithouse should make it available for free as a government output.
Current grant agreements already include a provision for licensing to the government; however, they also offer a 12-month embargo before being made public. This seems to be the "paywall" they are speaking of. The policy change is to eliminate the embargo period, so it can be made public immediately.
https://www.engadget.com/white-house-says-federally-funded-r...
Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay
#215Gives them until 2025. Why not retroactive?
Current policy is public after 12 months. This is just changing that to 0 for future grants.
Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay
#216Gives them until 2025. Why not retroactive?
2026. By then a new administration could come in and nix this rule.
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#217Having done a short stint dealing with this stuff I am glad something is being done. NIST/NSF funded several studies that I was close to that were suddenly owned by a journal who did nothing but provide a place to put it. Public money should always mean public access. Not just for journals, but for anything. If one red cent of taxpayer money goes to it, the taxpayer should get it for free. Hopefully the trend continu…
I agree. All that data should be publically available for reproduction of the work as well as open season. No one should be able to patent it either, or should only be able to file a patent to make it "publically available into perpetuity" to protect it. If tax dollars funded it, we own it as a society. If companies foot the bill then maybe something more complicated needs to exist, but if it is 100% public funded, u…
That's the system we had in the 1970s (government owned the patent to government-funded research). And what happened is that the government didn't know what to do with the patents, and the inventors, who were best positioned to commercialize their invention, could not justify spending time and money to commercialize something that they didn't own. So the Bayh Dole act of 1980 allowed universities to commercialize their federally funded inventions. The result was an explosion of startups, especially in the biotech industry.
Example: John Adler received some government funding to develop Cyberknife (image-guided radiation therapy). But he couldn't get follow up funding to commercialize this revolutionary new technology. So he took out a second mortgage on his house to commercialize the invention. And now image-guided radiation therapy is a standard treatment for many types of cancer. There's no way he would have taken out that large personal loan, if he didn't own the intellectual property.
There's a large gap between a patent, and a commercially viable product. And if you showed the patent to "experts" in the field, they would likely tell you that it's worthless. Great ideas are only obvious in retrospect. The inventor has the vision, motivation, and knowledge to make their invention a reality, but they can't quit their job and get external funding, if they can't own their invention.
Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay
#218Aaron Swartz would be thrilled.
It’s just sad that it took this long and he isn’t around to see it.
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#219Does the same apply to all the people and their work that did with the education loan that is being forgiven?
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. All that data should be publically available for reproduction of the work as well as open season. No one should be able to patent it either, or should only be able to file a patent to make it "publically available into perpetuity" to protect it. If tax dollars funded it, we own it as a society. If companies foot the bill then maybe something more complicated needs to exist, but if it is 100% public funded, u…
That's the system we had in the 1970s (government owned the patent to government-funded research). And what happened is that the government didn't know what to do with the patents, and the inventors, who were best positioned to commercialize their invention, could not justify spending time and money to commercialize something that they didn't own. So the Bayh Dole act of 1980 allowed universities to commercialize the…
The research results should not be patentable. If someone wants to then productize the research, they can patent any methods they can independently come up with, as long as they didn't use public money for that as well.
That is plenty of latitude for seeding start-ups and commercializing technology. There is no need to lock up the actual research so that only the researcher and their university can commercialize it, protected from competition. It does a disservice to the people who's money paid for the research behind it.