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A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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I don’t have a citation handy, but this is something that Google has famously studied. They claimed years ago that a tiny increase in the loading time of the Google home page led to a measurable decrease in the number of searches (like, a few percent). Not everyone is operating “at Google scale”, of course, but in aggregate the effect is real and faster-loading pages have better metrics. So, most satellite internet u…

most satellite internet users won’t give up just because your page is slow My point is that 'slow' is a relative measure against other websites, not an objective value. So long as your website is faster than a typical website then users won't give up. Trying to be faster than average is worthwhile, but trying to be as fast as possible might not bring any additional value. It's also possible (likely, in my opinion) th…

>My point is that 'slow' is a relative measure against other websites, not an objective value.

No, it is an objective measure that is rooted in human biology and psychology. Our perception of HCI is based on various response time limits, that define whether we consider interactions seamless or retaining our attention. For the websites those response time limits are often hit in various circumstances, even in urban areas of developed countries (e.g. poor cellular network coverage in a building results in reduced speeds and higher bounce rates).

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Some sites break the TCP standard by sending the whole contents of the landing page without waiting for the first ACK even it's more than 10 packets.

How do they do that? Do they use some nonstandard tcp stack?

You can change TCP slow start on Linux.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17015611/how-to-disable-...

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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post #109

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Omg just disabling custom fonts in Firefox speeds up the internet so much!

Thanks for the tip! For others wondering how you can do this, go to Settings -> Fonts -> Advanced, and uncheck "Allow pages to choose their own fonts...".

Or use uBlock Origin, which will allow you to re-enable fonts if disabling them breaks a site.

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Love how this person's blog itself consist of single HTTP requests per page load. No extra css, images, scripts, or anything! This blogger cares about web perf!

Yup the speed was refreshing, refreshing from all the dumb news sites which take for ever to load.

Yeah, fast loading news sites are few.

Here is a list to show how bad (and sometimes good) they get:

https://webperf.xyz/

I maintain this so let me know if any news sites I should add!

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Its best to have a compressed low res thumbnail that you can click to open the full resolution file in another tab imo

That 1MB is the full resolution image you open in another tab.

In that case, it shouldn't be counted into the webpage weight.

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Is there number, data, lab test session that proves it's worthwhile ? I sometime feel like these are all KPI detached from conversion but since it can be measured we do measure it.

You can easily do a very simple test yourself to see whether (and in which cases) this is worthwhile: In your browser, open dev tools, go to the network tab and enable throttling. For fun, set it all the way down to GPRS speed. Next, refresh that blog, you'll nearly instantly see the web page. Then, refresh the HN home page, quite quickly, you'll see the list of articles in a bare-ish HTML page and a little later it…

Have U seen, lite.cnn.com

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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Wow a web page that appeared the second I pressed the link, I guess he practices what he preaches.

Out of curiosity, would love to know your perception of load time for this article

(Disclaimer: I worked on optimizing this story template awhile back)

https://restofworld.org/2022/right-wing-osint-propaganda-in-...

It’s by no means 14kb but represents trade offs on performance and design.

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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post #50

Wow a web page that appeared the second I pressed the link, I guess he practices what he preaches.

I just went to theguardian.com and it opened immediately. This kilobyte fetishism on here is ridiculous.

Great, now go to Developer Tools and enable throttling.

Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page

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post #179

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1MB per photo is fine. It's the content after all. Many sites today will load 10MB of JS and custom font crap alone, just to show a few paragraphs of text. I don't think the point is the size itself, but it's the content vs. bloat ratio.

What's the substitute to not using custom fonts? Or is there a better way to load it? I'm having a hard-time convincing our brand team to defaulting to a system font.

There is some interesting things you can do with font-display and other css properties. E.g hide text for up to 100ms, if custom font has loaded swap to it, if not use fallback font.

https://simonhearne.com/2021/layout-shifts-webfonts/

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