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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

AnonMO wrote: post #143
kreeben wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You typed that silly reply on an operating system created by a European. You don't think we can host the shit out of that OS in Europe? I think you're just butt hurt because someone said something bad about the greatest country in the whole world that you know of.

If you're talking about linux an operating system based on unix from bell labs. then it just an operating system created by a European which is based on an operating system created by Americans. without one the other wouldn't exist.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, let alone dumb nationalistic flamewars. We may not be able to have a reliably good discussion forum in this community but we can at least do better than that.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

kreeben wrote: post #193
jaywalk wrote: post #182

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I typed my reply on an OS created by Americans, but that's entirely irrelevant. It's not about just installing Linux on a box, plugging in an Ethernet cable and calling it a day. We're talking about cloud providers here. You need to create something on the scale of AWS and Azure if you want to be taken seriously. Hetzner and OVH aren't going to cut it.

>> It's not about just installing Linux on a box, plugging in an Ethernet cable and calling it a day. It's not? Because that's what most Europeans think. >> We're talking about cloud providers here. Ooooooooooooooooooh weeeeeeeeeeeh, now that's fancy. Maybe if we could get an American over here to help us out, it could work? Are you available? Because we need answers to questions that you can't just google. We need s…

Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here, regardless of which country you have a problem with. No more of this, please.

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32393773.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

throwaway4good wrote: post #76

Hey America - stop spying on our our citizens or we will stop buying your tech. Seriously. We talk about this cloud stuff like it is rocket science. It is not. It is a box in a basement. We are capable of doing that ourselves. And no. It ain’t cool for NSA to sniff around some German governmental software, even though you are the good guys and on our side.

Please don't start nationalistic flamewars on HN. This one was particularly hellish and particularly dumb.

It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

jaywalk wrote: post #92
throwaway4good wrote: post #76

Hey America - stop spying on our our citizens or we will stop buying your tech. Seriously. We talk about this cloud stuff like it is rocket science. It is not. It is a box in a basement. We are capable of doing that ourselves. And no. It ain’t cool for NSA to sniff around some German governmental software, even though you are the good guys and on our side.

> We are capable of doing that ourselves. Then do it.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. Especially not tedious and dumb nationalistic flamewar.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

simion314 wrote: post #125
blocked_again wrote: post #75

I think this kind of affirms the general opinion that Germany and many traditionally powerful European countries is doing poorly when it comes to modern tech. What went wrong with Germany and Europe? They used to be the front runners in tech once upon a time.

But when is about TikTok I see most americans have completely different values, no sorry americans are consistent, only US citizens deserve rights, the rest can be spied on, tortured,killed etc. Give EU citizens same privacy rights and there so no need to start an economic war because some NSA fat and lazy agent does not want to prepare a file to request a warrant. If you are at it, maybe is tiem to let US citizens t…

Please don't take HN threads into flamewar, let alone nationalistic flamewar. It's exactly what we don't want here.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

bettysdiagnose wrote: post #145
blocked_again wrote: post #139

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You do know that nobody in US is forcing you to use this site or any other US companies for that matter. You are doing it with your own free fill. Also, remember the time when Germany decided to go after their own people? How does laws like this help when it comes to situations like that?

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Edit: actually, given the pattern of this account not just in this thread but in other threads as well, we've banned it. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32393807.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

bettysdiagnose wrote: post #109
legalcorrection wrote: post #90

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We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines, not just in this thread but elsewhere.

Please don't create accounts to do that with.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

legalcorrection wrote: post #90

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We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines, not just in this thread but elsewhere.

Please don't create accounts to do that with.

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

All: the hellish and puerile flamewar that many of you stooped to in this thread is exactly what HN is not for. We ban accounts that post like this, so please don't post like this.

What an embarrassment.

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I suppose I'd better add that this isn't about which side you're on. It's just about having an international forum that doesn't suck and doesn't destroy itself. All of you flaming each other in this thread have made HN suck (in this neighborhood) and contributed to destroying it.

No more of this, please. You can make your substantive points without any of that. If you can't, please don't post until you can.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Post by dang »

blocked_again wrote: post #113
lizardactivist wrote: post #86

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"European countries doing poorly when it comes to modern tech" has never been an opinion. You're confused, and your petty vindictiveness is unmotivated. The EU as a space of commerce is not yours to do with as you wish. You have to follow rules and regulations just like our own companies have to. And if your country had not been engaging in espionage and sabotage then there would never have been a need for these "unf…

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Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

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Edit: actually, I'm seeing so many abusive comments in your account history that I've banned the account.

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32393867.

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