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Post by alberth »

martijn_himself wrote: post #113

I don't really get the appeal of folding screens, but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when it was announced. One thing I would love is an iPhone / iPad that docks and dual boots into macOS powering a monitor- surely that should be technically possible by now.

Anyone who works on a job site will love this (e.g. architects, electricians, plumbers, etc).

Much like on the other extremely, pilots absolutely love the tiny iPad Mini because it can easily fit in the cockpit (and even be mounted to the windshield).

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Post by varispeed »

geraldwhen wrote: post #176
jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb." They are terrible.

Watch NorthridgeFix channel. Asus laptops are very much regulars -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGvLOW6Qec

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Post by varispeed »

madoublet wrote: post #173
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

I think most people (not devs/designers) view a laptop as something that costs around $750. That is why Windows still has a huge marketshare. Dell, Lenovo, Samsung, Microsoft all have laptops that have solid build quality, OLED screens, touchscreens, etc. at $1,500-2,200 price range but no one buys those. If you are in that price range, you are probably in one of those niche industries (design, development, graphics)…

I disagree. Buying Dell and Samsung laptop in that price range I'd say it is an overpriced rubbish if you compare to current Apple produce. There is really no comparison when it comes to build quality and performance.

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Post by KptMarchewa »

iasay wrote: post #32
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

Which is funny because while current 14' and 16' MBPs are very ahead of competition, previous generation was dogshit in terms of quality, and had a lot of this "blue sky innovation" that decreased usability - like the touch bar.

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Post by viraptor »

falcor84 wrote: post #153
noobermin wrote: post #143

I think the only thing about foldable screens is eventually the crease does not iron out and is part of the screen permanently, meaning likely you'll have to live with the crease eventually. I've seen many Samsung foldable screens that are display units at the store, that crease is pretty worn out after a few months to a year.

I'd be interested in official mean-time-to-crease stats. If it's indeed a year, I think it's still very worthwhile. Also, would it be economic to replace the panel after it creases?

Another interesting point is - does the smartphone experience translate to the laptops. We usually open the phone tens of times a day. The laptop screen will get much less movement.

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Post by KptMarchewa »

saiya-jin wrote: post #90
iasay wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

Selective quality. There were most-expensive-on-the-market-yet-worst-quality fraying cables that my 1$ usb cables from aliexpress could run circles around long after those were discarded (or not, my mother-in-law still carries one around, I guess to remind everyone how crappy engineering looks like). Bending phones (was it 6?). Also some nefarious moves like slowing down older phones. Every manufacturer has these blo…

>There were most-expensive-on-the-market-yet-worst-quality fraying cables that my 1$ usb cables

Apple is incredibly inconsistent. The iphone cable quality was complete dogshit: https://i.imgur.com/t7Oajul.jpeg

On the other hand, the new macbook pro magsafe cable is probably the best quality cable I've ever owned.

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

iasay wrote: post #207
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #206

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>My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage That's mostly an American thing. >Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly. Don't know about your kids or your childhood, but I always did what was cool and not what my parents told me is responsible.

I'm in Europe... My childhood was irrelevant as was yours. Time changes.

>I'm in Europe...

Then how do your kids communicate with those who only have android devices? That's a big social issue among teens in the US.

iMessage is never popular in Europe, as everyone here uses cross platform apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Snapchat, etc. due to the lower market share of IOS vs Andorid.

Your case seems like an outlier.

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Post by JadeNB »

ndiddy wrote: post #180
sumedh wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when announced. Let me guess you dont have kids.

In early childhood, children's brains will rapidly adapt to their environment ( https://academic.oup.com/pch/article/11/9/571/2648303?login=... ), for example Aboriginal Australian children develop strong spatial cognition to survive in an environment with few landmarks ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001002... ). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose b…

> It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose brains have adapted to oversaturated, constantly changing, narrative-free stimuli by being raised on YouTube Kids reaches adulthood.

This sounds word for word like worries about the first generation of children raised with ready access to TVs.

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