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Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Note that they were charged for wire fraud and wire fraud conspiracy. So not for actual Section 10(b) violations, aka insider trading.

Where is the fraud? They can't charge with insider trading, because insider trading does not apply to currencies or cryptocurrencies.

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Charged for what? There is no "insider trading" with cryptos, just as there isn't any with Forex, fiat currencies. He can't be charged, because there is no crime. No law prevents you to trade cryptocurrencies or fiat on insider knowledge. Might be unethical, but not illegal.

The article says Wire Fraud and Conspiracy.

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Wow, the indictment references [this tweet][1] that caused Coinbase to investigate the matter and ultimately led the defendant in being caught at the airport before trying to leave the country. > On May 11, 2022, Coinbase’s director of security operations emailed ISHAN WAHI to inform him that he should appear for an in-person meeting relating to Coinbase’s asset listing process at Coinbase’s Seattle, Washington offic…

Haha, and the first reply to that tweet is complaining that the SEC is ignoring this while shackling another Coinbase venture. That didn't age well!

https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1513926481486909442

Edit: Quoting in case it gets deleted:

>>While the SEC was very swift in shutting down Coinbase Lend for DARING to provide 4% yield

>>They’ll do absolutely nothing about this situation because they are a corrupt organization that wants to see the average American stay poor

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Charged for what? There is no "insider trading" with cryptos, just as there isn't any with Forex, fiat currencies. He can't be charged, because there is no crime. No law prevents you to trade cryptocurrencies or fiat on insider knowledge. Might be unethical, but not illegal.

There is actually no particular law against insider trading at all, not even related to equities… it’s all securities and wire fraud. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-02/don-t-...

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It talks volumes about the internal controls at CB that it took a tweet to expose this. Given the speed with which they grew last two years I expect their financial and security processes to be next to nothing. This is just tip of an iceberg. Insiders would have made tens of millions over last two years of bull run, if not more. This dude just got greedy and unlucky to get caught just as the crypto bubble began burst…

Coinbase is an awful company. I signed up for a debit card for some reason, and it immediately became a fraud target. Someone tried to use it at a restaurant in South Africa, a store in Singapore and a mobile provider in Moldova. The card was obviously compromised, and the only reason I didn’t lose money is that I didn’t make any available. So called, emailed, texted Coinbase on 5 different occasions and they never d…

First rule of crypto is assume the exchange is compromised. Money on the exchange is always in danger, as is anything connected to it. They are not banks. The people running them are usually yahoos. They are not a save place to put money for any extended length of time.

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/cobie/status/1513874972552355846

I appreciate how the top reply to that Tweet is an animated GIF of Speaker Pelosi rubbing her hands together. Note: Speaker Pelosi has not been arrested for insider trading

Speaker Pelosi's insider trades are a parliamentary privilege!

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Why are they being prosecuted? Those are not securities, or are they? "Wire fraud" implies that they defrauded someone by lying to their own advantage over a digital channel. Insider trading is generally legal for non-securities. EDIT: I am not implying that they shouldn't, on a moral level. They should! I am asking about legal technicalities, and about the state of law around those issues.

As Matt Levine would say - and will certainly write about tomorrow - Insider Trading is about theft. They stole valuable company information before it was publicly known to profit from it...

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your knowledge is privileged an non public, and might reasonably impact share prices either way, yes it is illegal. Not a lawyer, but your Buffet example above would be something I'd either run through compliance before traiding or I just wouldn't trade at all before said whatever he planned to say. Source: Countless of SOX-mandatory insider trading trainings and falling under rules covering restricted traiding wi…

> If your knowledge is privileged an non public, and might reasonably impact share prices either way, yes it is illegal. Unless you’re in the US Congress as there is an exception for their legislative insider info.

Okay, so obvious question: Is it legal for random Joe on the street to find out what trades congresspeople are making and mirror them?

Re: Former Coinbase PM charged in cryptocurrency insider trading tipping scheme

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Charged for what? There is no "insider trading" with cryptos, just as there isn't any with Forex, fiat currencies. He can't be charged, because there is no crime. No law prevents you to trade cryptocurrencies or fiat on insider knowledge. Might be unethical, but not illegal.

Everything Everywhere Is Securities Fraud: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-26/everyt...
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