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Flipper Zero – Portable Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Re: Flipper Zero – Portable Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by lstodd »

pnw wrote: post #208
mschuster91 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're shipping from Hongkong per their FAQ [1], and are incorporated from the US [2] [1] https://flipperzero.one/faq [2] https://www.flipperdevices.com/

I can't load either of their sites because our network blocks all Russian IPs. LinkedIn indicates 15 of their 16 employees are based in Russia.

> I can't load either of their sites because our network blocks all Russian IPs.

You aren't in control of your own net access?

> LinkedIn indicates 15 of their 16 employees are based in Russia.

What difference does it make? According to Linkedin I live in Falklands, that doesn't mean anything.

src: personally know the lead guy.

Re: Flipper Zero – Portable Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by sogen »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #202
Rebelgecko wrote: post #180

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There's a few tools for figuring out radio stuff. The first is super simple, it just scans through the frequencies and tells you which is the strongest. Most devices will put this in their manual but it's nice to not need to have to look it up. Once you know the frequency one option is to just take a raw sample at ____megahertz and play it back on demand. This doesn't work for some radio signals because they use roll…

> (be VERY VERY careful using a Flipper with a car key fob, because they can sometimes go out of sync and you can't open your car afterwards) FYI many cars with "keyless" entry have a traditional keyhole hidden under a piece of trim around the door handle and a key (sometimes plastic) hidden inside the fob; sometimes the key is part of the ring for a keyring, and can be released by pressing on the manufacturer's logo…

Thanks, TIL

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Post by efitz »

I love my flipper zero; I’ve been using it to investigate NFC doodads.

I participated in the crowdfunding campaign and I must say it was one of the best run campaigns ever; the team was super transparent and took a lot of time communicating all the behind-the-scenes of developing the product; their updates were very interesting. Can’t wait to see what they do next.

Re: Flipper Zero – Portable Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Post by rootw0rm »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #93

PSA: the main benefit of this s the ease of use, due to a lcd display, buttons and software support. If you're familiar with arduino/esp* programming, you can get the components (eg. esp32, cc1101, nfc reader, and infrared transciever) for a lot cheaper on aliexpress or your local reseller, and all of those things are in stock. (or in other words, if you're one of those people who buy stuff like this, play with it fo…

I already have individual tools that can do all this and more, but it still looks damn nice... wish I could justify buying more stuff

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Post by worthless-trash »

mystickphoenix wrote: post #181
peddling-brink wrote: post #148

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Out of the box it supports limited raw rf capture and replay. Your garage door (probably) and your car key fob use rolling codes which change each time the button is pressed. This is not supported, and likely won’t be in the official firmware. I’ve used mine to make copies of all rf and ir remotes in my home. Fans, tv, bidet, AC, etc.

FWIW I've used mine to duplicate both of our car key fobs (middle 2000's Mazda and middle-2010's Jeep) so it'll probably be very dependent on make/model/age as to whether it uses rolling codes.

Surely these rolling code devices should be started by some kind of seed, otherwise how does one replace a remote ?

I'm not convinced that there is a 'non destructive' method to find that out though.

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Post by konart »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #93

PSA: the main benefit of this s the ease of use, due to a lcd display, buttons and software support. If you're familiar with arduino/esp* programming, you can get the components (eg. esp32, cc1101, nfc reader, and infrared transciever) for a lot cheaper on aliexpress or your local reseller, and all of those things are in stock. (or in other words, if you're one of those people who buy stuff like this, play with it fo…

You can build most of the things you own yourself. It's just that sometimes it's a) not worth your time, you'd rather skip the initial step and start building around the ready tool b) this thing actually looks and feels much better than you garage kit. Some people do care.

This is like the usual flame war about macbooks vs everything else.

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Post by chupasaurus »

f311a wrote: post #150
catskul2 wrote: post #138

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I think they may be shipping from Russia, so that may be part of the problem.

They ship from Hong Kong

Not only that, but shipping to Russia has been it's own problem from the start of the project.

Disclaimer: I know some of the employees at Flipper. And a few Russian backers who still didn't get their device.

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Post by prmoustache »

konart wrote: post #216
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #93

PSA: the main benefit of this s the ease of use, due to a lcd display, buttons and software support. If you're familiar with arduino/esp* programming, you can get the components (eg. esp32, cc1101, nfc reader, and infrared transciever) for a lot cheaper on aliexpress or your local reseller, and all of those things are in stock. (or in other words, if you're one of those people who buy stuff like this, play with it fo…

You can build most of the things you own yourself. It's just that sometimes it's a) not worth your time, you'd rather skip the initial step and start building around the ready tool b) this thing actually looks and feels much better than you garage kit. Some people do care. This is like the usual flame war about macbooks vs everything else.

All I see is it remove the motivation barrier and just create waste for the sake of creating waste. Another devices that people buy, tinker with it a few hours then sit in a drawer for years until it will be binned.

More than a nice hacking tool, this is a pollution and waste of resources tool. There is nothing positive about that.

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Post by tommit »

stuaxo wrote: post #193
Rebelgecko wrote: post #44

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I use mine as a remote for a lot of things: My front gate, my parents front gate, and any other front gate (check your local laws before doing this). Controlling a lamp I have (works with any device I've tried that uses 433mhz) Backup remote for my TV (the Flipper infrared UI is kinda clunky but it works) Backing copies of NFC cards And most importantly, you can use it to turn the pages during a PowerPoint presentati…

Hm, feels like I could have used this with my Gen 1 Phillips Hue, shouldn't have thrown that away I guess.

Weren't these already using ZigBee? Does anyone know whether the Flipper can handle those frequencies as well?

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Post by kweks »

peddling-brink wrote: post #148
wnevets wrote: post #84

I have a passing interest in wireless hacking but I have no idea if I have the skillset to make any use of it. How useful is this for someone with zero pen testing and/or wireless experience? I'm curious to know what it would take to hack my garage door or key fob for my car

Out of the box it supports limited raw rf capture and replay. Your garage door (probably) and your car key fob use rolling codes which change each time the button is pressed. This is not supported, and likely won’t be in the official firmware. I’ve used mine to make copies of all rf and ir remotes in my home. Fans, tv, bidet, AC, etc.

Slight correction: There are two modes of RF Capture available : "Read RAW" and "Read".

"Read RAW" does exactly what it says on the label: Captures a raw stream, based on the specified frequency and demodulation.

"Read" captures, decodes and attempts to interpret the signal capture. The FlipperZero has a large built in database of brands + models of RF devices, and a database of KeeLoq master keys.

For rolling remotes that are KeeLoq based, with known keys, the Flipper can most definitely decode / decrypt rolling codes, and generate the next in the sequence.

TL;DR: Handles fixed + Rolling codes, via built in database of keys + models.

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