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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by krapp »

l33t2328 wrote: post #35
cmntqatar2022 wrote: post #15

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Why on earth do some people think it’s okay to include USA with countries like Qatar? USA isn’t perfect, but being gay isn’t punishable by jail time here.

>USA isn’t perfect, but being gay isn’t punishable by jail time here.

Give it time. Texas and other Southern states currently seem to be in a race to see which state can out Nazi-analogy the other in regards to trans rights, abortion and religious propaganda in schools and those states historically also had (or still have) "anti-sodomy" laws.

Outright criminalizing all LGBT identity and speech literally just depends on whether the Supreme Court lets the states turn the ratchet far enough, which they seem willing to do. It would absolutely have popular support among much of the country.

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Someone wrote: post #168

So, just get married for a night, then ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%27ah : “Nikah mut'ah Arabic: نكاح المتعة, romanized: nikāḥ al-mutʿah, literally "pleasure marriage"; temporary marriage: 1045 or Sigheh (Persian: صیغه ، ازدواج موقت) is a private and verbal temporary marriage contract that is practiced in Twelver Shia Islam in which the duration of the marriage and the mahr must be specified and agreed u…

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Post by JoeQuery »

honkdaddy wrote: post #186
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #82

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And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

What?

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Post by mhh__ »

honkdaddy wrote: post #186
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #82

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And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

Is it poor taste? I certainly have never had any issue complaining. It's widely reporter on in sports journalism, and the BBC etc.

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Post by mhh__ »

DocTomoe wrote: post #130
Karellen wrote: post #26

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FIFA is actually registered as a non-profit organisation. ...despite making profits of around $250M/year with cash reserves of over $2.5B.

See also: Wikipedia Foundation.

Not even close

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Post by ngc248 »

DocTomoe wrote: post #128
pishpash wrote: post #110

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Singapore uses public caning. This stuff seems common in city-states.

Small area means less space to put large prisons on it - which means punishment moves to more corporeal and less incarceration. Especially with "morality" laws, where there is no real reason to protect society from a "criminal", that may be a good way to handle things. I'd guess many folks sitting in prison in the US for smoking weed would much rather have a few whips with a cane than losing years and years doing not…

>>> would much rather have a few whips with a cane than losing years and years doing nothing productive.

I know people who have been caned (for alochol consumption) in the mid-east who still have problems walking today, so no that cannot be an alternative.

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #71
sshine wrote: post #9

https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

The gulf states are modern-day slave societies.

I have the privilege to come into contact with migrants. I have seen things that should not happen in a wealthy European country.

Everything the media writes about Quatar I know is going on right here. The outrage is minimal. As long as desperation for money exists someone will exploit it.

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Post by alex3305 »

ahtihn wrote: post #29
jleyank wrote: post #3

This is where ethics and money collide. If you participate, you’re complicit. The players are comfortable enough to say no, and the punters can stick to the local pub or even bite hard and “stay home” entirely - let the advertisers know. Talk it cheap. Actions mean more but both have costs. Willing to pay?

> The players are comfortable enough to say no Not if saying no risks ending your career. You don't become a pro football player and play in the world cup just for thr money.

If you are a footballer in Europe or South America, the World Cup doesn't have to be the biggest tournament. There are big names in football which haven't played in a World Cup at all [1]. If you want to earn the big bucks, you will have to play at a big club in Europe and play Champions League. There's where the money is.

1. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1116241-ranking-the-top-...

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Post by justusw »

DocTomoe wrote: post #144
scoutt wrote: post #104

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> barbaric https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/barbaric "possessing or characteristic of a cultural level more complex than primitive culture but less sophisticated than advanced civilization" This is barbaric: Flogging -> "Flogging is employed as a punishment for alcohol consumption or illicit sexual relations" stoning -> "As of 2014, certain provisions of the Qatari Criminal Code allows punishments such as f…

> This is barbaric: Flogging -> "Flogging is employed as a punishment for alcohol consumption or illicit sexual relations" I think it is a lot less barbaric than imprisoning people for smoking weed, for years, or have them appear on a sex offender list, massively limiting their freedom, for arguably small-scale things, like public urination.

And what happens, when you get caught smoking weed in Qatar?

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Post by sshine »

dotancohen wrote: post #118
sshine wrote: post #48

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Yes. Simone De Beauvoir said "One is not born a woman, but becomes one". The idea is that "man" and "woman" are social roles you gradually grow into as you increase your responsibility for yourself and others. Things that may contribute towards becoming a man or woman are: Becoming a parent, becoming financially independent, becoming emotionally mature, participating in society on the level of your fellow grown-up pe…

My seven year old changes the oil (I loosen the oil filter and remove the drain plug after he's told me to), works with (real) hammer and nails, and traverses overgrown hills without slowing down his infantry-serving father's pace. Is he a man at seven? Or for that matter, my neighbor's six year old herds the sheep all day in the sun, unattended. He is responsible to bring his own food and water, and tend to the shee…

> Is [my son] a man at seven? Is [my neighbor's son] a man at six?

No, a seven year old is not even close to being neurologically or physically mature. If your son happens to be a dog, even though he this is 6 x 7 = 42 human years, "man" usually refers to the human species only, but in this case I'd be willing to call him a dog-man.

There is a legal definition of "adult" which is somewhere between 16 and 21 depending on the age of majority in the country you live in. [1] I am not disputing that a 22 year old American is, by default, a legal adult, and I don't think you believe that this is what we're arguing about.

> How is a 22 year old person who crosses an ocean [...] considered a boy?

By not having finished their development physically, neurologically, emotionally, and socially.

https://bestlifeonline.com/age-adult/

"What we're really saying is that to have a definition of when you move from childhood to adulthood looks increasingly absurd," Peter Jones, Professor of Psychiatry and Deputy Head of the School of Clinical Medicine at the University of Cambridge, told the BBC. "It's a much more nuanced transition that takes place over three decades."

Jones admits that the age at which someone becomes an "adult" is different for everyone, but indicates that it would be inaccurate to call someone in their twenties an adult because they're still going through a lot of brain development. "There isn't a childhood and then an adulthood. People are on a pathway, they're on a trajectory," he said.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

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