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Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Post by barrysteve »

zackmorris wrote: post #202
barrysteve wrote: post #150

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- 6: Taking an iodine supplement initially, a few times per week until the bottle was gone Iodine related to hypothyroidism?

Sorry, I should have added some details to this one. My eyebrows had mostly fallen out by the end of 2018, and my dad (a dentist) pointed out that maybe my iodine levels were low. That used to be really common a century ago before iodized salt, and many of my elderly family members have had thyroid issues. I took "thyroid energy" (NOW Foods, no affiliation) which has some additional micronutrients like selenium and f…

Wow thank you for the reply! I've heard similar things about soil being depleted of iodine (will research cobalt) in Australia and other places. They ended up putting a law in place in like 2008 to have all bread for sale be made with iodized salt to get the iodine intake back up.

>But I'm angry/concerned that I had to derive this information myself over several years. Why is this not one of the top news stories, when hypothyroidism and obesity are rampant?

Holy sweet crackers, yes. It's crazy how much information we have access too and so very little useful knowledge gets delivered, particularly on health and this topic.

Never even heard of an "anti-nutrient" and while I skim a google search, I'll read up on tannins as I drink some hot tea regularly. Thanks for the post again.

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Post by barrysteve »

zackmorris wrote: post #204
smt88 wrote: post #162

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Or none of it had any effect, and something psychological or undiagnosed was resolved. It's a completely meaningless list for us and (possibly) for OP.

I understand that you're both skeptical, as you should be. My theory now is that ADHD is tied to diet and environment. So basically what happened was, my psyche was already vulnerable to anxiety and depression when it got coopted by my physical health issues. I struggled chronically to make an appointment to see a doctor for years, always letting work and family obligations take priority, which prolonged and exacerba…

>My theory now is that ADHD is tied to diet and environment.

I agree that it is, and it has shown to be linked to diet & environment. ADHD isn't strictly defined enough to be only diet & environment though. There's a whole bunch of ADHD symptoms that present as a result of an underlying health condition. Hypo/Hyperthyroid problems look like ADHD-PI and ADHD-H. Vitamin deficiency and environmental poisoning can create symptoms too.

But also some people have it regardless of those factors, so it's really a broad label at the moment which could do with a lot more refinement.

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Post by 0daystock »

blindmute wrote: post #209
0daystock wrote: post #197

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> humans have been eating for literally tens of thousands of years is causing depression and widespread health concerns They literally haven't eaten meat, dairy and eggs 3-5x per day. This is a new phenomenon in the last half-century. And to go back even further, our biochemistry is millions of years old, and is frugivorous in nature. We have no physical adaptations to eating meat. We only started doing it recently a…

> We have no physical adaptations to eating meat. How curious that we are so perfectly able to digest it and thrive from it! I wonder why so many other herbivores didn't get so lucky. > Plant-based foods are naturally low in fat, which is calorie dense, so such a diet is in fact ideal for weight loss. Yes, of course a low calorie diet is ideal for weight loss. What does this have to do with cows milk yogurt? Are you…

> How curious that we are so perfectly able to digest it and thrive from it! I wonder why so many other herbivores didn't get so lucky.

Humans can also eat and digest shirts, pencils and small pieces of plastic. And you didn't provide any evidence of any adaptations we have to meat eating. Check and mate.

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Post by blindmute »

0daystock wrote: post #213
blindmute wrote: post #209

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> We have no physical adaptations to eating meat. How curious that we are so perfectly able to digest it and thrive from it! I wonder why so many other herbivores didn't get so lucky. > Plant-based foods are naturally low in fat, which is calorie dense, so such a diet is in fact ideal for weight loss. Yes, of course a low calorie diet is ideal for weight loss. What does this have to do with cows milk yogurt? Are you…

> How curious that we are so perfectly able to digest it and thrive from it! I wonder why so many other herbivores didn't get so lucky. Humans can also eat and digest shirts, pencils and small pieces of plastic. And you didn't provide any evidence of any adaptations we have to meat eating. Check and mate.

We can't derive nutrition from wood or plastic. We derive excellent nutrition from meat, because we have the requisite enzymes. That is the adaptation.

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Post by mrharrison »

brigandish wrote: post #193
mrharrison wrote: post #145

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I had similar issues. I went and saw a functional medicine doctor, had a stool test and he diagnosed me with candida overgrowth. Which may be what you had. Here is the diet protocol for beating back candida, which is similar to the diet you put yourself on. https://www.thecandidadiet.com/

Did you feel any different or notice change as it was dying off/reducing? I was treated for a fungal infection a while ago with some anti-fungal drugs and the side effects felt huge, but the doctor told me those drugs are considered very mild. It made me wonder if the fungus was affecting the way I feel and it dying down made me feel differently (better, but it was a big change).

I was also on antifungals and yes it was quite brutal. I was quite tired and had a red flush from the die off. I took off the shelf liposomal glutathione to help clear out the oxidative stress.

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Post by mrharrison »

zackmorris wrote: post #203
mrharrison wrote: post #145

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I had similar issues. I went and saw a functional medicine doctor, had a stool test and he diagnosed me with candida overgrowth. Which may be what you had. Here is the diet protocol for beating back candida, which is similar to the diet you put yourself on. https://www.thecandidadiet.com/

Thank you, I suspect that I had a chronic infection of some kind like that. I'm leaving out a lot of details about my experience, because it's private and I lost hope several times. I want to stress that my self-medication and self-diagnosis prolonged my suffering. So please if anyone is reading this, see a doctor. They can run these tests and many more: Antimitochondrial antibodies (AMA) Baylisascaris Procyonis inte…

So half of those issues can be caused by candida overgrowth. If you get rid of the candida your body will reduce it’s heightened immune response and things like epstein barr and hashimotos will go away, testosterone will increase, etc.
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