Wow, reading a few pages of mostly spiteful & angry (at Mr. Goodfellow) replies on macrumors.com was really eye-opening. Ordinary people seem to have no idea at all how much in-demand someone at the level of Ian Goodfellow is.
Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work
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#212A theory is that VP+s love their teams to be in office. Their values are in talking to people all day long, and in-person meetings amplify the perceived values. Therefore, they do mandate returning-to-office policy. This also explains why companies argue how important in-person meetings are for productivity yet engineers are saying the opposite.
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That's not established without knowing if they're working on neural engine hardware, for example.
We can probably infer from the fact that they've been remote for 2 years that it is possible to do their job remotely.
Could also be the other way.
It could be that he wasn’t doing his job well remotely and hence the push to get him in.
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#214Good for him. These companies touting their solutions for creating a more connected world can't have it both ways. Apple was able to ship the M1 and roll out new iterations of many other offerings since the pandemic hit. They're just fine. Apple didn't collapse since the pandemic hit, and the flexibility offered by remote work is far more valuable to lots of people than the loss of in-person collaboration opportuniti…
Not to undermine your point, wich which i agree wholeheartedly, but I wanted to address one thing. I imagine quite a lot of people who worked on M1 hardware probably still had to show up to the office. For some positions it is just required. A friend of mine who worked on hardware at Apple had to go to the office almost every day throughout the pandemic (and no, i dont know what product he worked on, and I am not goi…
There is very little physical interactions when designing hardware these days. You do most of the work and CAD software and simulations.
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The office is where the very expensive labs are. For at least parts of Apple engineering, very expensive equipment and prototypes are under lockdown and too expensive to duplicate for WFH. (at least that's how it was during my several years there.)
But why ML people have to be forced in the office ?
He’s a director and is most likely supposed to be an example.
“If the director isn’t coming in then why should I?”
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#217It's amazing how bigoted some of the employees are. Having never witnessed the type of racism until recently when it has become en vogue, it's disgusting, and incredible how people admit their bigotry, and how others tolerate it.
It is interesting that the employees seem to realize that before technology allowed for people to work remotely, it was more an issue of individual merit that determined who had which jobs. They'd probably not admit it, but that is consistent with their claims given the circumstances.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
ML isn't fizzling out. What planet do you live on?
It does seem to have arrived in a cul-de-sac? I am not a ML specialist. Watching from the sidelines.
A probable take I heard from an insider: companies used to boast about their new AI developments for investors, but now are very hush-hush to avoid regulatory scrutiny
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to undermine your point, wich which i agree wholeheartedly, but I wanted to address one thing. I imagine quite a lot of people who worked on M1 hardware probably still had to show up to the office. For some positions it is just required. A friend of mine who worked on hardware at Apple had to go to the office almost every day throughout the pandemic (and no, i dont know what product he worked on, and I am not goi…
There is very little physical interactions when designing hardware these days. You do most of the work and CAD software and simulations.
We all still do a lot of lab work