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Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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``` TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'C') at Ccf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) at Bcf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) ``` Has something to do with grammar. The document does not fail when `Show grammar suggestion` is turned off.

Also, Therefore, And, Anyway, But, Who, Why, Besides, However. Each in caps 5 times with the same word with a period and space after each word and newline at the end is what I have found so far. Can anyone find others? Edit: added words that work found in other comments, and found more.

Probably the weirdest one I've found is "Dearness."

"Although", "Besides", and "Moreover" also trigger the behavior.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

#212

``` TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'C') at Ccf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) at Bcf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) ``` Has something to do with grammar. The document does not fail when `Show grammar suggestion` is turned off.

Also, Therefore, And, Anyway, But, Who, Why, Besides, However. Each in caps 5 times with the same word with a period and space after each word and newline at the end is what I have found so far. Can anyone find others? Edit: added words that work found in other comments, and found more.

How about "Whereas", "Insofaras", "Notwithstanding", "Thetruthofthematter", or "Despiteallobjections"? Didn't try them, but these were "reserved words" in Go (actually an easter egg) until 2017 (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2489803/notwithstanding-...).

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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post #187

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I was a couple years out of school, and felt a lot of responsibility. It wasn't really a big deal, but it didn't feel like it at the time.

What a great story nevertheless.

It helped me empathize with young engineers dealing with their first high responsibility bug.

About 4 years ago, I was managing a guy right out of school who pushed a minor bug that broke real-time risk calculations for a major multinational financial institution in the middle of the European trading day, prior to the NYC open, and people were yelling over email that they were trading blind. Someone had committed an important change right after his, so a simple rollback was highly sub-optimal.

Remembering how I felt years ago, I reassured the new guy that people were yelling over email because it was important, not because they were mad at him. I told him that I thought he was the most familiar with his change and the most capable person to fix it, and that he should do his best to calm down and focus, but he should let me know if he needed help, and I would do my best to calm folks down. I told him he would probably remember that mistake the rest of his life, but nobody else was going to remember it a week later. He had the bug fix in production in under an hour.

He sent me an email from home that night worried that he had let the team down, and I reiterated that he was going to be the only one who remembered the mistake longer than a week. The post-mortem follow-up was just to reiterate to authors and reviewers the importance of corner-case tests, and nobody brought it up later.

I really only remember it because my manager sent me an email that night praising how well I handled the new guy's first big production bug.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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post #156

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Some people might get off on that kind of culture. But this story makes me glad I don’t work there for some reason.

having spent time on both sides of the fence, i've noticed that there can be a rivalry of sorts between software engineers and ml/ds/researcher types. researcher types often get to work on problems that swe types find interesting, so some swes get grumbly. researcher types also tend to write pretty horrific code which adds salt to the wounds. but there also can be a sort of envy that emanates from the research side.…

It's funny you should say that, I definitely was the DS who wanted to be an SWE. I switched hats and am just thrilled, but I do run into a lot of my new peers who wish to go the other direction.

Finding some perfect compromise for those groups would probably be a superpower for whichever org pulled it off, I agree.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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I read it as a joke, but I started with an assumption of good intent.

Following the guidelines I see > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith

Well not for that reason, but it’s always a good reminder :)

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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post #178
post #156

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having spent time on both sides of the fence, i've noticed that there can be a rivalry of sorts between software engineers and ml/ds/researcher types. researcher types often get to work on problems that swe types find interesting, so some swes get grumbly. researcher types also tend to write pretty horrific code which adds salt to the wounds. but there also can be a sort of envy that emanates from the research side.…

> maybe a little training on why customizing a programming language with macros is bad Both the author and the reviewer had passed C++ style certification. They knew why it was bad. They just got a little lazy and wanted to write their code in a way that felt familiar to them, and figured it was harmless. I got a bit grumpy at having to drop what I was doing right away to fix their mistake due to their laziness.

also, just to be clear. the macro only included open and close curlies?

if so that's silly, as it is literally 2x the work to type.

if they also included some sort of state that had to be managed, then it starts to verge towards reasonable.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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try /s at the end of "offending" sentence, most people will look at it more kindly.

I'm sure you're great. Nothing against you, but please don't do that. Just write what you mean if you can't handle some people misinterpreting a sarcastic remark. Let's think about this for a second. What's the point of sarcasm? If you have to tell people you're being sarcastic, are you still being sarcastic? Not sure what territory, "/s" blunders into, but I'm confident it's not sarcasm. It's something else that see…

To be fair, when vocalizing sarcasm, it is often marked by a particular tone. That tone is not easily conveyed online.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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post #179
post #164

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I probably should have left [redacted]'s name out of it. He's a nice guy, but a bit cynical and rough on the edges, at least he was 15 years ago. He fit in well in New York, brutally honest, but actually generally nice. Edit: I should point out that we were in Google NYC, as were the researchers. We had lunch with them some times. I remember the first name and face of the guy who submitted the slow code, but forget h…

Yeah, that might have made it sound as if he's always like that. To his credit, he was one of those that had to be involved when things got desperate, e.g. the insane and massive data recovery to prevent the index from growing stale during a PCR that wasn't properly planned for (if you were around, you know what I'm talking about).

Yea, nice guy and solid engineer. He was actually my TA for a systems engineering class back in school. He was actually very helpful in solving other people's problems, but a bit blunt in encouraging people to reach their full potential.

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

#220

Took me right back one of many detentions I served at school, when Mr B Swales set us the challenge of finding a grammatically correct English sentence with five ands in a row. The answer was as follows: The landlord of the "Dog and Partridge" pub commissioned a signwriter to letter a new board outside. On looking at the work, the landlord declared that he liked the colour but would prefer more spacing between Dog an…

It seems like cheating to omit the double quotes around the literal instances of “and” while still including them around “Dog and Partridge.”
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