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Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr

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Re: Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr

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Public health has a history of social engineering, sometimes successful.

I think there’s room for debate about what “social engineering” means. I’m talking specifically about hoping to solve a problem by convincing people to do something they don’t want to do, whether that’s exercise and lose weight or turn down the heat and put on a sweater to fight climate change. You can educate people and provide them with low cost, high benefit options. But you can’t change human nature or brow beat…

> I’m talking specifically about hoping to solve a problem by convincing people to do something they don’t want to do

Ironically, the social engineering project most impactful to global warming exists to give people what they (think they) want, not to force them to do something they don't want to do. They're called suburbs. We made a whole range of living arrangements flat-out illegal, because (most) people express a preference for low-density living. A social engineering project of historical proportions. You're right; we should eliminate it.

People should be allowed to build whatever kind of housing they want to build on property they own and we should eliminate the social engineering scheme that restricts developers to single-family homes in most areas.

Re: Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr

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As glib as that option might be, the people most affected by malaria are disproportionately the ones least contributing to Climate Change in the first place, and tend to live in regions most affected by CC. I'd imagine the Gates could get far more bang for their CC bucks by lobbying for revoking the EPA/FDA/OSHA/VA. A few billions in the right super PACs and CC might be reversed ;-)

> I'd imagine the Gates could get far more bang for their CC bucks by lobbying for revoking the EPA/FDA/OSHA/VA. A few billions in the right super PACs and CC might be reversed. So, your claim is that if we didn't have the FDA or EPA, then we wouldn't have climate change? I haven't such a ridiculous claim in awhile. What's the logic here? Even disregarding the other Federal agencies that you seem to dislike, how does…

> Is this just sarcasm implying that if more people die due to the absence of these agencies, then there will be less of a collective carbon footprint?

Yes - see the parent comment I was replying to.

Re: Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr

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Gates has talked about what has motivated him to donate the way he has, its no mystery. He says he was gobsmacked by how little money was devoted to the health problems experienced by poor countries and that comparatively small investments could have enormous impact. Also, I think you are underestimating how terrible malaria is > Globally, the World Health Organization estimates that in 2020, 241 million clinical cas…

I mean, that's bad, but those numbers aren't anything compared to what climate change is going to do. If the population of Earth drops by a billion over the next hundred years, that's 10M a year, on average. (I recognize that I'm not differentiating between premature deaths and a lack of replacement births, but still.)

He's using capitalism rather than philanthropy on climate, and there's not really a shortage of capital in the climate space, its an incentives problem. Capitalism is of more limited use in the health of poor people, which is why he has focused his philanthropy there.

Re: Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr

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> I'd imagine the Gates could get far more bang for their CC bucks by lobbying for revoking the EPA/FDA/OSHA/VA. A few billions in the right super PACs and CC might be reversed. So, your claim is that if we didn't have the FDA or EPA, then we wouldn't have climate change? I haven't such a ridiculous claim in awhile. What's the logic here? Even disregarding the other Federal agencies that you seem to dislike, how does…

> Is this just sarcasm implying that if more people die due to the absence of these agencies, then there will be less of a collective carbon footprint? Yes - see the parent comment I was replying to.

Ah, I misunderstood. I apologize.
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