So where can I buy this simple machine?
Or do I need a prescription and paying US healthcare level prices?
5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)
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Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)
#212After reading Wim Hof and James Nestor a couple years ago during the pandemic, I used their techniques in full while battling long Covid. I had a blood pressure monitor and pulse oximeter on my bedside table that I would experiment with doing these various techniques and seeing my heart rate go down, my blood pressure go down, my anxiety would disappear, lung/chest inflammation would settle, and even oxygen levels in…
wim-hof is a life saver. I used during my covid battle as well. I had this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybOi4hjZFQ on loop when I was suffering with covid
Wim-Hof almost killed me (that exact video). Please don't try it until you are in a state you can comfortably sustain 1+ minute lack of oxygen.
Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather than post this completely useless comment, why don't you actually contribute by posting why you think this study should be ignored? I think many people in this comment section know from personal experience that breathing is a powerful tool for stress management so this result is intuitive to them.
breathing is a powerful tool for stress management As is the occasional recreational drug of choice. Heck, a glass of milk before bed can do be a powerful tool for stress management. Same for going to a salon and having someone else wash your hair. Even when it seems to work for you , you should still be sceptical when you find this stuff in a paper - especially when it is a small study. Especially with stress relief…
> Especially with stress relief, something can "work" for you but still be completely without scientific merit
This paper is scientific evidence. What it really sounds like is for some strange reason you don't want this to be true. Put in the effort yourself, read the study, and tell us all why this paper is bs.
Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)
#214After reading Wim Hof and James Nestor a couple years ago during the pandemic, I used their techniques in full while battling long Covid. I had a blood pressure monitor and pulse oximeter on my bedside table that I would experiment with doing these various techniques and seeing my heart rate go down, my blood pressure go down, my anxiety would disappear, lung/chest inflammation would settle, and even oxygen levels in…
Do you have a cheat sheet or video we can watch to get the gist? Thanks!
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, maybe. As in: sure, a lot of breathing techniques and sometimes even useful natural remedies are some of the oldest recorded ones if they are coming from "the east", but in the end that corpus of wisdom is mostly a spaghetti mess of helpful and harmful techniques that is really hard to disentangle from cultism, oogie-boogie and autocratic belief systems. There's no shortage of stupidity in eastern "wisdom": htt…
Did an acupuncturist stick a needle too deep?
Downvoters.. reflect on all the quackery in Western medicine for a moment. Writing so many paragraphs about all of the "stupidity in eastern wisdom" without recognizing you can make all of the same statements about Western traditions. Even in modern institutions.
So unnecessary just to say you like verifiable/repeatable studies.
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#216Swimming also restrict air flow to the lungs: you must inhale quickly and hold your breath during parts of the strokes. Possibly the effect shown here contributes to swimming being such a good exercise and might be useful in comparing the physiology of swimming with that of similar sports (e.g., rowing).
Would this regimen improve the blood pressure of swimmers? Swimmers are already breathing under restrictive conditions (possibly as much as an hour or two each day) so my guess is "No".
But if I can get any significant part of a swimming workout in minutes per day, I'll take it!
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#217> not necessarily meant to replace exercise I'm hoping someone can answer a question to which I've never heard a really satisfactory answer: Why does human health benefit from exercise whereas any kind of simple machine wears out with exercise? For example, doing a hundred stretches per day improves my health whereas stretching an elastic band 100 times per day will cause it to lose elasticity and soon destroy it. So…
Not exactly what you were asking for, but Nassim Taleb's "Antifragile" might be of interest to you. It's about how many human made things e.g. machines, the economy, etc. are fragile and get weaker/collapse under stress. In contrast many organic things (e.g. muscles) are antifragile, i.e., they gain from (small) stressors. Definitely an interesting read.
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
“doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source.” See I can pick parts of a random definition off google the same way you do. Have you heard of “beer yoga”? Or “goat yoga”? It’s the very definition of disrespectful of the original meaning etc. I’m guessing not, but feel free to be entitled to your opinion, it’s a free country after all
> See I can pick parts of a random definition off google the same way you do. I shared the whole definition I found from the first result returned to me[1], and I didn't use Google. If you have a better definition then I would suggest that a better response would've been to share it instead of falsely accusing others of mistakes only you have made. [1] https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cultural-appropriation-...
Uh ok, Bing/DDG whatever, that's an odd thing to nitpick. I'm not sure who is accusing whom of what, I just pointed out that the definition YOU found from wherever, has the exact phrase I alluded to above. The phrase I quoted specifically says why this could be seen as cultural appropriation, but you seem to be intent on arguing semantics of words and nitpicking so I'm not really sure what your goal is here.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, plagiarism is important in every circle, not just academic circles. If you copy your colleague's work at your FAANG job and claim it as your own, you will be in trouble. If a contemporary politician claims he has come up with this novel idea where decisions can be made with "majority vote", he will be mocked out of the room. And so on.
> No, plagiarism is important in every circle, not just academic circles. Please show me how it would be important to Patanjali , or even how it will reduce the good the techniques bring, how it will negatively impacted yoga teachers, or something other than FAANG jobs, politicians and academia that simply aren't relevant to this discussion.
I'm not sure why you keep focusing on Patanjali, who I'll concede is beyond caring about this. But the people from his culture and civilization who ARE alive today do not want to see his works (some who consider it sacred) associated with "beer" or "goats" or commercialized without proper credit and respect, and it is important to them. I'm not sure why that reason is not good enough for you? Are you the kind of person who goes trespassing in sacred native lands in Hawaii or anywhere else, because after all the elders are all dead?
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your oxygen level is varying significantly while at rest, you are very out of shape aerobically, and you should be getting more exercise, not obsessing about your breathing patterns.
While it's clear exercise is good for everyone, this statement is not well informed. For example, oxygen saturation monitoring revealed my at-rest breathing reflex is completely broken due to a known genetic flaw. You know the memes about 'your breathing is now under conscious control'? Mine actually is. That led to a sleep study-- and, yup, I don't breathe when I'm asleep. I wake every two or three minutes, all nigh…
What became your solution to this situation?