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If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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When US invaded Iraq (because of false claims about weapons of mass destruction), people did not call random numbers in America. And ordinary Americans did not do anything to stop their government from invading another country on false premises.

Iraq was a dictatorship with a murderer at the head. Ukraine is a democracy. HUGE difference.

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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

>Trust me. Look. I have pen

Or even better:

"Privet kamrad. My name John. Zer is a site Utub. Itz no blokt in Rasha. Taip Ukreyn in surch boks end it vil shou yu trus yu didn't no."

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Their country is killing thousands of innocent men, women, children, grandparents, babies etc. The West needs to prioritize on worrying about whats best for Ukraine, and saving their lives. Have more sympathy for them. Once Russia lays down arms and skidaddles back across their border perhaps we start feeling sympathy for the invaders then. What Russians need to do now is pick sides. Take a stand against Putin, or, l…

Very easy for us westerners to criticize Russians for not protesting. I wonder if you'd be protesting if you lived in a place where doing so could get you killed?

Putin has been in power there for 20 years. Been attacking neighbor nations for at least 14 years, offhand. He has a clear track record. Info has been out there, and for a looooong time ordinary Russians were able to get facts, if they wished.

They've had plenty of time to move away. Some have. Some chose to stay. These are the consequences of the choices they made.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Their country is killing thousands of innocent men, women, children, grandparents, babies etc. The West needs to prioritize on worrying about whats best for Ukraine, and saving their lives. Have more sympathy for them. Once Russia lays down arms and skidaddles back across their border perhaps we start feeling sympathy for the invaders then. What Russians need to do now is pick sides. Take a stand against Putin, or, l…

People have been protesting; So far, 13,000 have been arrested.[0] Remember: Russia's judicial system is not the same as the US'. It's easy to armchair criticize when your life isn’t on the line. Is it North Korea's citizens' fault that they have a dictator? After all, they do have a "democracy" where Kim Jong-un is "elected": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea [0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/…

Great. I have massive respect for any Russian who has stood up. Hopefully they set an example and embolden more.

There are several ways Putin can exit office, or exit the world. In the best scenario for everyone, the Russian people should make it happen. Thats a thing they get to choose. The kind of future they want. I bet that ordinary Russians dont want to wake up in a nuke wasteland, eg, and no American, European or anyone else wants to either. Because that is madness. But the Kremlin is a wild card now, and credible reports is they simply dont have the kinds of safeguards and mediating forces that most Western nuke powers do. Best if Russians themselves show him the door, before its too late for anyone.

We really cannot over-emphasize the seriousness of the stakes now. For humanity. Russians best step up, show the rest of us what kind of people they are, down in their hearts.

Now or never.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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On the spot, at a checkpoint? I mean it's obviously possible but is it likely to happen on random inspection? (Serious question, I don't know in Russia, definitely not in other places)

Apparently it's happening: Police officers in Moscow are stopping people, demanding to see their phones, and refusing to release them if they refuse. https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-police-are-demanding...

I meant about the phone company logs lookup, I can totally believe general searches.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Are you okay with getting individuals possibly arrested in the name of a purported common good? You are no better than the FSB itself then.

Their country is killing thousands of innocent men, women, children, grandparents, babies etc. The West needs to prioritize on worrying about whats best for Ukraine, and saving their lives. Have more sympathy for them. Once Russia lays down arms and skidaddles back across their border perhaps we start feeling sympathy for the invaders then. What Russians need to do now is pick sides. Take a stand against Putin, or, l…

What a weird comment. Victim blaming at its finest.

By the same logic Ukrainians can stop resisting and prevent WW3. Is it "Zero sympathy for evil Ukrainians wishing WW3?".

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Why aren't russians telling eachother? At least a fraction of russians read and trust trustworthy (international) news sources, but if their peers won't believe them, why would they believe me if I called them? Russia isn't North Korea. Yes there has been a tightening lately and all easily accessible media has been propaganda for a long time. But that doesn't mean any Russian can't - with some effort - consume a wide…

> Russians have a responsibility to protest the regime now, carrying the personal risk despite perhaps having little to no personal responsibility. Else they have the blood of Ukrainians on their hands. Back in 2003, Americans had a responsibility to protest the Bush regime. And hundreds of thousands of us did, but it didn't do a damn bit of good. We still have the blood of over one million Iraqis on our hands. Russi…

I still remember the Dixie Chicks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Putin is not a train, he is only a man, and can be killed.

He has the entire Russian security forces protecting him. For a random person going against him is quite close to standing in front of a train.

All mortal men. All killable. Fallible. Malleable.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Yes, we’re at war. The rules have changed.

If we are at "war" right now, then what is it called when US troops roll tanks into Russia... "super war"? Words have definitions. The definition of war is "a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state."

That is called The End.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Should we also tell them about all of the WMDs we found in Iraq that those same news organizations told us existed for sure? How many other false narratives do those "trusted" organizations need to tell before you stop trusting them?

>> that those same news organizations told us existed for sure No they didn't. They reported on what US leadership was claiming; they did not claim to have seen it, did not provide video footage, did not have people in Iraq going "Yep. Right there. That WMD. Right there. Oh, also, over there is the crater where they tested it", etc etc.

That is precisely what is happening now. They are reporting what US leadership, intel agencies, and outright silly propaganda tells them. They don't have boots on the ground. It's "Yep, there's the Ghost of Kyiv right there in this video game footage. Yep, that's a granny torching 100 Russky tanks".
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