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Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC

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Re: Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC

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Taking a different point of view, perhaps there's nothing superluminal about this: what if the neutrinos are indeed travelling at 'true' c, whereas light is 'tiring out' over the same distance? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_light)

The idea of cosmological redshifts would need revision, and thus our understanding of the universe. But at least c remains unassailable...

Re: Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC

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A news article where both the scientists and the reporter understate the claims, publish the data, and ask other teams to please prove them wrong. I like this. Most of the time the reporters overstate the research, the scientists keep the data secret, and the general public is left scratching their heads.

Scientists generally do not keep data secret. They try to publish as much as they can actually! This is how you get nice things like funding and tenure! Most of the time reporters misunderstand the research and then oversell it in order to get their story read. The general public is usually left scratching their heads because of this bizarre layer of clueless journalists between them and the scientists. Yes, some sci…

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The beauty of state-funded news, no?

> The beauty of state-funded news, no? Until it steps on the state's toes.

The BBC is indirectly funded, but not controlled by the UK government. It's possible that the government could threaten to cut the BBC's budget by reducing the cost of the TV license, or not raising it along with inflation, unless it changed its news coverage. However, a tactic like this would go over about as well as a proposition to repeal the first amendment would in the United States.

Re: Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC

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I don't know about scienctists in general, but at least in climate science it is not true that scientists rarely keep the data secret. You can review untold number of cases of this on climateaudit.org and the justifications by the stonewallers are extremely poor. Given the high profile and sweeping consequences of their work, this attitude is giving science a black eye.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Steve_McIntyre

> He is the proprietor of the Climate Audit blog (or, more accurately, "Climate Fraudit")

If you can't make an argument without resorting to name calling in the first line, please excuse me while I disregard anything at all you have to say. kthxbye.

Re: Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC

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I desperately want to believe that this will somehow enable us to live in a Star-Trek future, even though I'm sure it won't. Would someone with some knowledge of physics care to break down the ramifications of this (if it's not some sort of measurement error)? Please?

In any case, I'd like to submit my resume to the Time Travel Bureau. I am a computer collector and I am very familiar with many of the technologies time travelers from the future may want to procure. ;-)

Sorry, your future self was faster and already got the job. He also claimed to have a larger accumulated experience :-)
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