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Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by seoulmetro »

aneutron wrote: post #59

That's so sad ... I used to follow the channel from its beginnings, especially when they used to cover exclusively Korea and Japan (with Kei), but since then I dropped off. I'm very saddened to see it has reached this state.

Yep. Me too. Followed after their first few videos which were interesting, but then stopped after they started making it an entertainment channel and could see through their lies.

At least now I can tie a name to these shitty channel style: "vox pop".

There are so many and they're so bad.

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Post by lambdadmitry »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #77
rackjack wrote: post #36

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??? The teachings of Confucius, the food, even those big red door decorations with the symbols on them, and so on... are these not things that are still endemic across the mainland? It is simply absurd to claim Chinese culture only survived in "a few small places" in the mainland.

Where is confucianism taught in modern day China? Don't be tricked by the Communist Party's claim that they endorse his teachings, everything happening in the Mainland today goes completely against confucianist ideas. (Chinese) legalism is much closer to what is taught in China today and the teachings of Carl Schmitt have recently become very popular among party members. Of course it wouldn't look good to the world i…

It's not hard to see some unsettling parallels between the idea of the party and the people being one and the "ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" slogan.

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Post by philliphaydon »

wonnage wrote: post #206
philliphaydon wrote: post #169

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> What is even your point here? Are you trying to say that it's actually Taiwan provoking China? You could have mentioned the CCP attacking and attempted invasion of Taiwan in 1954 and 1958.

The CPC were trying to finish the war and the KMT were a military dictatorship that had just overrun the island. Presumably at this point an outsider country has no real horse in this race, except that the KMT dictatorship was massacring its people because they were communists, while the CPC was doing the opposite, hence the American support. You have to understand that things are different now because Taiwan evolved…

The civil war ended in 1949. So this was an attempt of invasion after the end. What happened after 1949 in both Taiwan and China was horrible. But thankfully Taiwan is thriving now. If only could get over it’s illegitimate claim to Taiwan so my family and I can feel safe.

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Post by dirtyid »

philliphaydon wrote: post #213
wonnage wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CPC were trying to finish the war and the KMT were a military dictatorship that had just overrun the island. Presumably at this point an outsider country has no real horse in this race, except that the KMT dictatorship was massacring its people because they were communists, while the CPC was doing the opposite, hence the American support. You have to understand that things are different now because Taiwan evolved…

The civil war ended in 1949. So this was an attempt of invasion after the end. What happened after 1949 in both Taiwan and China was horrible. But thankfully Taiwan is thriving now. If only could get over it’s illegitimate claim to Taiwan so my family and I can feel safe.

Not only did civil war not end in 1949 (or 2022) but ROC implemented port closure policy to blockade PRC coastal shipping in 1949 (lasting 30+ years), which led to Tuapse incidence in 1954, which led to first and second strait TW crisis you referred to in 1954 and 58. Both "invasions" were direct fallout from ROC provoked aggression, and distills the geopolitical essence for why the civil war will continue until one side becomes completely subservient to the other for security reasons.

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Post by bjornstar »

philliphaydon wrote: post #142
rnmwfQ3f wrote: post #74

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My wife is Taiwanese, so I can confirm Taiwanese and Chinese get along fine. Many marriages, friendships and business partnerships cross the Taiwan Strait. However Taiwanese people don't use their passport to travel to China. China doesn't recognise it. They are issued a travel permit by the PRC, similar to citizens of Hong Kong and Macau.

Not only that. You can’t just travel from China to Taiwan. It’s a bit difficult. Most people must travel as part of a tour group. Unless it’s business or you have family to sponsor you or something like that. Basically you can’t just jump on a plane and have a holiday in Taiwan from China.

This used to be true, but in 2008 direct flights between China & Taiwan were established and today it's easy to holiday in Taiwan from China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Links

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Post by varjag »

jabbany wrote: post #113
GauntletWizard wrote: post #41

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How did that takeover happen?

Back in the day, the KMT (Nationalist party) was the conservative counterpart to the progressive CCP (Communist party). After the civil war stalemate, this left the mainland with only a progressive party and Taiwan with only a conservative party. Then Taiwan developed its own progressive party. And nowadays the CCP is becoming much more conservative under Xi... so... yeah...

> Back in the day, the KMT (Nationalist party) was the conservative counterpart to the progressive CCP (Communist party).

Tell us you are American without telling us you are American

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Post by coldtea »

starfallg wrote: post #186
platinumrad wrote: post #124

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> Germans were starving in the 20s too due to the outcome of WWI. The Nazi 'fixed' that. It sure seems like a reach to say that China in the 2020s is like Germany in the 1930s because Chinese were starving in the 1960s (and, to lesser extents, the 1970s and 1980s) and Germans were starving in the 1920s. Wouldn't it follow that China in the 1970s (or 1980s or 1990s) is analogous to Germany in 1930s? Oh wait, of course…

It's an absurd analogy only if you're in denial about the horrors of extreme nationalism or ideologies coupled with authoritarianism. You even seem to deny that today's CCP is the same CCP as the one that cause the Great Leap Forward. In many ways, the CCP of today is more like the CCP of the 50s than the 90s.

"It's an absurd analogy only if"

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Post by ekianjo »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #57
ekianjo wrote: post #31

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It's journalism by selective editing. Fairly widespread practice.

Fairly widespread is undercutting it. It's universal practice. People hold journalists to crazy high standards of integrity and soothsaying, and the older I get the more it boggles the mind that grown adults still cling on to this. Journalists work for private corporations who write things for a target audience to make money. That's all there is to it.

> Journalists work for private corporations who write things for a target audience to make money.

Sure, but let's not pretend that stuff like NPR is devoid of bias. They are clearly choosing their teams as well, even if they don't do it for money.

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Post by philliphaydon »

bjornstar wrote: post #215
philliphaydon wrote: post #142

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Not only that. You can’t just travel from China to Taiwan. It’s a bit difficult. Most people must travel as part of a tour group. Unless it’s business or you have family to sponsor you or something like that. Basically you can’t just jump on a plane and have a holiday in Taiwan from China.

This used to be true, but in 2008 direct flights between China & Taiwan were established and today it's easy to holiday in Taiwan from China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Links

When president President Tsai Ing-wen was elected it became difficult. In both 2016 and again in 2019. China banned solo travel from certain cities in China to Taiwan.

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Post by starfallg »

platinumrad wrote: post #208
starfallg wrote: post #193

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But those are the exceptions. The general situation is that traditional characters are official in Taiwan and taught as the standard in schools, and simplified characters in the Mainland.

Simplification was a good thing. Plenty of factions in the early 20th century wanted simplification, or even full romanization. It's just that the CCP happened to win the civil war, so they're the ones who actually implemented it and now it's a cultural flash point. Honestly, it's not a big deal, unless you somehow think Hangul and Hiragana are abominations too.

>Honestly, it's not a big deal, unless you somehow think Hangul and Hiragana are abominations too.

Not sure where you are going there and what the process of Chinese character simplification has to do with Hangul and Hiragana. That's more akin to the drive to romanise Chinese than simplification.

Simplified Chinese isn't an abomination, but some parts of it is done poorly. If you take a look at how Japan did simplification with Shinjitai, you can see that in general the simplification process is more precise with a smaller number of characters affected, and those that are simplified were done in a way that is more linguistically and aesthetically sympathetic. For example, 個／个 and 廣/広/广.

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