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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29546433#29549855
and the consequent uBlock Origin list that is what I'm using as the so far better solution for this problem:
https://github.com/stroobants-dev/ublock-origin-shitty-copie...
but it will need curation and updates over time, which I'm not sure the author is willing or has the time to do.
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What would proof be? Over a period of time, they have clearly de-prioritized organic search results by pushing them down the page with ads, widgets, and so on. They used to engage more directly with content producers. Matt Cutts was often called the "Head of Web Spam". When he left, they dissolved his role and spread it around to several other people.
Your claim regarding deprioritized search results for example - where’s the proof? If what you are saying is true it should be trivial to give sample queries so we can test across all search engines and see if it’s true.
None of this is in dispute, so I don't feel compelled to dredge up old screenshots or examples.
Comparing the page layout to competitors isn't especially helpful when Google has 90%+ market share in search. Google is defining the standard for others.
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> ddg it's just Bing with a gimmick Is that true? I've read images are served by Bing, not sure about the web search.
Web search is served by the Bing Web Search API.
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I use ecosia.org wich is like ddg, but a part of the proceeds go into charity. Not affiliated with them, just like it a lot. Like ddg it's just Bing with a gimmick, but it's decent.
> ddg it's just Bing with a gimmick Is that true? I've read images are served by Bing, not sure about the web search.
Coke/Pepsi create, market, manufacture, distribute their soda.
Dr. Pepper just creates and markets their soda. They don't manufacture or distribute their own soda (believe it or not, Pepsi manufactures & distribute Dr Pepper soda).
That's an ambitious goal, I'm not sure to see how that would be maintainable on the long run. On a much smaller scale, if anyone is interested, I maintain a black list focused on those code snippet content farms that gets in the way when you're searching for some error message or particular function here https://github.com/jhchabran/code-search-blacklist .
May I know why my domain (cyberciti.biz) was added to that list? I created my site back in 2000, and there was no StackOverflow or anything. So much for creating original content and then getting labelled as a spammer. In fact, some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me. Some people do give credit tho. But, go ahead block a site that actual humans maintain over 2…
I'll be honest, I don't remember how I came to that conclusion but I suspect I encountered an unsatisfactory answer to a question I was looking to answer, saw the .biz and drew my conclusions.
The noise to signal ratio for most of my queries is so high that I have to start judging a book by its title, not even its cover.
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I’ve also been using https://kagi.com for the past couple of days and have found the search results to be unparalleled to both Google and DuckDuckGo. I haven’t come across any SEO spam and the results seem to be of better quality overall. They have all of the same bangs DDG uses and get results from Bing, Google, and a bespoke index. Because they query Bing and Google, it will be pretty expensive when it launches (it…
How long did you have to wait for the invite?
A reply to those in this thread saying that Google should/will take care of this: Imagine you had a position in a huge market that was as close to unassailable as there has ever been. Imagine also that you have a controlling position over the mechanisms that allow people to participate in that market. Now try to make a case against optimizing for squeezing every last cent out at the cost of the user experience. In 10…
If comparatively tiny operations like DuckDuckGo or Brave can launch decent search engines, I think there's hope of reducing Google's dominant position in the market.
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Your claim regarding deprioritized search results for example - where’s the proof? If what you are saying is true it should be trivial to give sample queries so we can test across all search engines and see if it’s true.
"Deprioritized" means moved down the fold of the page. Like, for example, the 3-4 ads at the top that used to not be there. And various other widgets that used to not be there. Ads in SERPS started out in the right hand sidebar only. Such that organic results were at the top. They were slowly moved down over time by a slow rollout of more ads and widgets. There are many queries now with ZERO organic results above the…
Can't say I really get your point. You're willing to complain and go on this long tirade, but not to give a single query example? The one you gave in your original post was already debunked easily enough. You're saying these things as if they are a fact - I disagree with you, it is in dispute. If we're going to just take random claims are facts, then I'll say Google's results are better than ever.
Google's market share isn't really relevant. It's very easy to just use Bing or any other search engine. I actually use Bing half of the time since it offers rewards.
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Any recommendation? I use ddg but it's Bing based and the results are no better.
I've been using Kagi over the last few days and have actually been pleasantly surprised with it performing better than both Google and DDG for my use cases. It's still free during the beta so might be worth giving it a shot.
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"Deprioritized" means moved down the fold of the page. Like, for example, the 3-4 ads at the top that used to not be there. And various other widgets that used to not be there. Ads in SERPS started out in the right hand sidebar only. Such that organic results were at the top. They were slowly moved down over time by a slow rollout of more ads and widgets. There are many queries now with ZERO organic results above the…
Why don't you give any examples of these queries? There's no point in comparing to say, 2008 Google, there are many of orders of magnitudes more sites. You can't expect old algorithms to keep up. The main thing that matters is how long it takes to find what you're looking for. Can't say I really get your point. You're willing to complain and go on this long tirade, but not to give a single query example? The one you…
As for a query with a shit ton of ads and widgets? Try vegas hotels, or anything else with lots of widgets and ads. The travel space has a lot of them.