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Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by D13Fd »

IronWolve wrote: post #207
gpu_explorer wrote: post #204

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I would remind you that vaccine hesitancy, vaccine skepticism, and vaccine avoidance are not the sole property of the American political right. To this point, Twitter also banned Naomi Wolf. Google it if you're not familiar. Instagram banned RFK Jr. Google that as well if you want. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jun/05/naomi-wolf-ban... Marjorie Taylor Green posted provably false misinformation about vaccines…

Good point, while the right is more outspoken about mandates the left does occasionally get banned for it. But to say her view is toxic, would be picking sides. Her posting CDC links is pretty far from toxic. That seems pretty much targeted for her politics.

Thousands and thousand of politicians and others are on Twitter with politics similar to Greene, and they aren't banned. It would be pretty easy for them to just ban whoever has politics that they don't like.

They banned her because she was spreading information that they deemed harmful.

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Post by bcrl »

Jansen312 wrote: post #209
bcrl wrote: post #147

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They don't have to rely on Twitter. Politicians have office budgets which include money for sending out mailings to their constituents. Most politicians also have their own email lists to which they send out updates and run polls. There are plenty of venues outside of Twitter to contact constituents. Twitter itself is under no more of an obligation to publish material from a politician than a newspaper is. Both are c…

Newspaper can be sued. Twitter can't (section 230) because they are a platform that can't choose what to publish. But they now giving Congress the finger by acting like newspaper and still can't be sued. Essentially, new media are given protection while old media constrainted. I favor 230 removed or explicitly nullify if media show they can censor.

I wholeheartedly concur that section 230 needs to go or be significantly revised. After seeing my elderly father get phishing ads served up by Google during COVID from completely reasonable searches, I'd like to see it be possible to start going after damages from this kind of activity.

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Post by [deleted] »

Veen wrote: post #27

Elected officials shouldn't have to rely on Twitter or other social media platforms to communicate with their constituencies. This woman seems like a loon to me, but she's a loon with a democratic mandate. If social media is going to be the default communication medium, then perhaps it needs regulation to clarify its relationship with elected officials.

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Post by josephcsible »

clowd wrote: post #192
josephcsible wrote: post #172

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Facebook has a habit of politically motivated bans too, so she'll probably get banned from there next just like everyone else has. And Gab and Parler have a really hard time getting users since Google banned them from the Play Store (and I think Apple did the same), so it's disingenuous to pretend that they're equivalents to Twitter.

I don't think "everyone else" has been banned from Facebook; aside from Trump, I can't think of any other American elected official they've banned. Gab and Parler both work fine in a web browser.

That didn't take Facebook long: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

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Post by exodust »

lbotos wrote: post #88
mark_l_watson wrote: post #54

No matter what their politics are, I would hope that all reasonable people can condemn cancel culture, regardless of the political alignment of the person being cancelled. I get a lot of value from Twitter because I follow a few awesomely interesting people, but I could probably get the same effect by bookmarking their blogs. People should have access to all information, and filter for themselves what is trash. I don…

I saw a recent meme that said "In the distant past we didn't have cancel culture, we had exile culture. You were just told to leave." > People should have access to all information, and filter for themselves what is trash. I don’t want Twitter, news media, etc. filtering. And people still do -- Marjorie can start a blog on a vps and I'm sure most providers would be reasonably okay with it, unless she became a DDoS ta…

> If you show up to a sports arena ....

Poor analogy. A sports arena is one big room for sport, not messaging. If people stood on soapboxes and yelled their off-topic ideas at everyone in the arena, they would be asked to leave regardless of what their messages were.

Twitter's purpose is publishing messages on any topic. It is not one big room where everyone must hear everyone else. The equivalent "doing it wrong" on Twitter is not (or shouldn't be) dissenting views or objections to vaccines. Doing it wrong on Twitter should be confined to inappropriate use of the API or some other technical misuse that actually impacts other users. Or posting illegal material or hate speech.

I don't remember anyone asking Big Tech companies to act as helicopter parents, protecting readers via censorship from ideas that don't align with current public policy.

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Post by tjr225 »

josephcsible wrote: post #177
tjr225 wrote: post #65

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is entitled to create her own Twitter. Not to use someone else’s Twitter.

If she did that, the infrastructure services would do the censorship, just like they did to Parler.

Then shouldn’t you be angry at the infrastructure services and not Twitter?

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Post by loourr »

notreallyserio wrote: post #43
loourr wrote: post #22

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I fail to see the connection. It sounds pretty misleading to me.

You see, if the vaccine worked as originally advertised, people who are vaccinated should not contract covid. Therefor it does not work as originally advertised.

Now before everyone freaks out - we've changed the claim around what a vaccine does. It's no longer intended to prevent spreading covid or prevent contracting covid, it's just intended to reduce symptoms of covid. So if that's your definition of vaccine efficacy then I would agree her claims were false.

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Post by loourr »

darkstar999 wrote: post #87
loourr wrote: post #22

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That's not what she said. From the article: Twitter suspended Ms. Greene’s account after she tweeted on Saturday, falsely, about “extremely high amounts of Covid vaccine deaths.”

On that point I'd agree. Death from adverse reactions to the vaccine are well below natural rates of death from covid itself, which in my mind should be the key metric.
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