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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by adityapatadia »

scoopertrooper wrote: post #13
nyuszika7h wrote: post #4

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The L1 device key they posted was already revoked earlier today. The tools themselves might continue to work for a while longer with an appropriate non-revoked key depending on how much services want to change up their APIs.

I can't see them changing up their APIs in any meaningful way. It'd seem kind of pointless to me. At the end of the day, if you're exposing something on the internet, then it won't take a huge amount of time for people to reverse engineer how web clients interact with the server. Main game should be rotating the L1 keys. I don't know about L2 keys, but rotating L3 keys seems like a lost cause to me, some dude made a…

Here is the plugin: https://github.com/cryptonek/widevine-l3-decryptor

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Post by baybal2 »

luckylion wrote: post #176
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

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Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. Music has proven that idea wrong. I'm part of a few private music trackers that came after oink and what.cd. They're much smaller today than they used to. Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. They're maybe serving 200k people worldwide, if you include the language-specific ones from China, Korea etc. Spotify a…

> Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts.

Sitting in a cafe Abu Dhabi now, a shop on the opposite side of the street has "$10 for 1000 MP3 Hitz"

I don't know who streams, when you can just download MP3s.

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Post by ralferoo »

VRay wrote: post #193
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #181

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probably it was the average family but not the median family, which of course means that the high end dream consumer family was paying much more than that.

Man, I grew up lower/lower-middle class, about 30-40% of the median family income, and we had the $80/month cable package plus went to Blockbuster for 5+ rentals per week I don't think that was unusual, either.

If you're watching 5+ rental films per week, when do you have the time to watch anything on the cable package?

Sounds like a ridiculous waste of money to me, but then I'm firmly at the other end of the spectrum. I finally cancelled my £30 a month TV package, I've not rented a film for over 10 years, and would buy blu-rays or DVDs only for things I thought I'd watch more than once, or where buying them was cheaper than renting (common in the case of box sets).

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Post by rg111 »

feupan wrote: post #160
_august wrote: post #95

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I get the technical reasoning, but as a policy it makes no sense because the pirates are getting 4K anyway, and a paying customer is getting a degraded experience.

The usual then. Pirates never have to deal with DRM and sometimes their games perform better — I recall a story about an anti-copy mechanism slowing the game down for people who purchased it. Good stuff.

I spend a lot of money in indie stuff- games, music, docus, books written by young academics, programmers, etc. And then I get the same content through other means. The experience is much, much better.

I ensure that the "small" people benefit from my consumption- the people who will actually benefit from my $10/$20/$50. But I also have to keep my comfort and ease in mind.

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Post by BatteryMountain »

shp0ngle wrote: post #68

I never understand what pushes people to download Netflix/Disney media and share it on torrent sites. Don't get me wrong, I am glad they do. But, what is the positive for them? The negatives (angry copyright lawyers from one of the richest corporations) outweighs the positives (some clout on 1337x or Usenet or wherever these guys dump it)

Not all content is available in all countries at all times.

I currently have this problem with Spotify + South Africa, where a bunch of music on my playlist is no longer available.. I do not care about their reasons. Pondering not renewing next year.

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Post by sdoering »

sneak wrote: post #198
Sander_Marechal wrote: post #190

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I would love to see compulsory licensing schemes for audio and video streaming like they have for radio broadcasts. Maybe allow 1 or 2 years of exclusivity, but anything else is fair game to stream by anyone as long as they pay the license fee.

We don't need compulsory licensing; we already have piracy. Everything is already available, forever, for free, without DRM.

Some people would love to compensate the original creator. And some people would be willing to pay to be able to easily consume content legally.

The problem is that the current state of affairs is fragmented and not set up in a way that ensures that I as a consumer can be sure that I can consume said content again tomorrow.

I pay for access but am not ensured that the content I like is going to be available.

That makes piracy an option for some.

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Post by bayindirh »

sdoering wrote: post #217
sneak wrote: post #198

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We don't need compulsory licensing; we already have piracy. Everything is already available, forever, for free, without DRM.

Some people would love to compensate the original creator. And some people would be willing to pay to be able to easily consume content legally. The problem is that the current state of affairs is fragmented and not set up in a way that ensures that I as a consumer can be sure that I can consume said content again tomorrow. I pay for access but am not ensured that the content I like is going to be available. That mak…

The best thing is iTunes store IMHO.

I start to listen an album via Spotify. I buy it via iTunes if I continue to listen it. If I really like that album that much, I find a lossless copy.

If I can buy a lossless copy from the original artist, I go that route first. RadioHead's leading the pack on that. I have a 24bit wav album from them.

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Post by agumonkey »

agumonkey wrote: post #170
throwawayboise wrote: post #47

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Agreed. I often don't get more than this from streaming services, due to bandwidth congestion.

I'm not the happiest of dudes, that's for context, but I have this feeling that people are hiding something.. binging tv shows all the time, new video games all the time, waiting for the new console. It seems like a neverending chase of new shallow fun they don't even really like. Maybe simpler but deeper moments would improve things.

Woops wrong reply.

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Post by lemoncookiechip »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #162
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #136

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Remember when the Covenant Kodi plugin was thriving and the media companies hadn't waged legal-nuclear war against that sort of thing yet? It finally felt like the future: I could watch anything , in any language it was available in, right now, in my chosen quality, with automatic subtitle downloads if you want that sort of thing. I would pay good money for a service that could do that legitimately, but no, we can't…

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible

Netflix was kinda of that for a few years (2012-2015) before the rise of streaming services. Piracy was way down (P2P not indicative of the whole picture, but good enough), during that period. Then everyone decided to make their own platforms and started taking pieces of the pie from Netflix and here we are today, where you need at least 4-5 services to get access to half a dozen show you want to watch per year, as well as requiring a VPN service if you don't want to have less than 20% of the US library in a lot of countries.

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