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I am not religious at all and I've thought of myself as tolerant of religion (they all have some very good teachings, after all). But lately organised religion has been bothering me a lot. It is just so obviously a form of controlling people: you have to believe this and that and also hand over some cash and vote for such and such. I can't get around the fact that this still goes on so blatantly in this day and age.

As a religious person (By western standards) I can't stand any sort of Religious authority. I believe they are what made religions Today incredible superficial. Critical thinking is prohibited in favor of blind belief, and the clergy only recite what they memorized. To me, my Holy Book is the only religious authority, and it's my job to understand it and think about it, however such injection of the mind into religio…

"my Holy Book is the only religious authority"

Sounds like idolatry to me -- sounds like you are taking a book, written, edited, and organized by human beings, and equating it with God.

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Not religious and not really spiritual at all to be honest. The closest thing to "spiritual" that I do is walking slowly. Years ago one day I noticed I had the habit of walking very quickly everywhere I went and that this was pointless. I walk much more slowly now, looking around, watching things, people, anything. I make a point of always leaving earlier than I need so that I never have to hurry. Kind of like the re…

This. And as much as I love listening to music, going without any headphones and just hearing whatever it is you are in the middle of can be centering.

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I'm into magick.

So a lot of what I do is observe my thoughts and intentions and direct my attention/emotion/passion/sexual energy towards the most beautiful and joyful subset of those.

When I'm particularly certain of a desired outcome I will "cast" for it, occasionally doing a bit of sorcery: drawing funny pictures and generally doing wizardly stuff.

I also do "continuous divination" AKA leaning heavily into apophenia and just generally not assuming that mysterious forces aren't at work around me. Sometimes I'll also do "acute divination" -- my favorite method is fortune cookies, not even kidding.

Visualizing and praying to various god/esse/s is important. In particular I pray to Ganesh to help me let go of negative things I'm holding onto (this was a beautiful outcome of therapy mingling with my spiritual life); I also love Inanna, and Sun meditations. I'd also be lying if I denied that Christ shows up in my most anxious moments--especially since He appeared in a dream to tell me "you don't need to be a Christian to talk to me".

Finally, there are also public rituals that I attend on a regular (sans covid) basis where we meditate on natural/spiritual forces and socialize our spirituality.

This is one of the most important bits of it all, as it 1) is a huge source of magical energy, 2) reinforces the practices I'm doing 3) inspires/goads me into deepening those practices, and 4) exposes me to more ideas and possibilities in this zone, even if I've been negligent to study the mysteries (and I have been negligent, since focusing on my career the last few years).

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post #87

Muslim here. Ritual prayer is the core exercise. Before sunrise, after sunset, and 3 other times during the day. But as important or more so is constant remembrance of God. If that's not institutionalized in one's day-to-day psychology, one will lose spiritual momentum, if we can use such terminology. "Worship" in Arabic عبادة actually means something like "conformity to God's order", as far as I understand. So even…

The constant remembrance of God sounds vaguely similar to mindfulness, especially with your example of eating an apple while practicing it.

This is also similar to Christianity's concept of vigilance.(https://www.openbible.info/topics/vigilance)

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Zen buddhism. I started going to a local zendo about 7-8 years ago to do a weekly 1h30 hour meditation (in fact, 3 short bursts of 25min). This also became a (much shorter) daily habit, and over the year I attend various retreats (from 1 to 5 days). The zendo itself is 'managed' by a monastic.

I started because I wanted to have a crazy experience that would modify my epistemiological understanding of the world. Over the years, I discovered how past emotional events subcounsciously influenced my decision making, how much parental roles shaped my romantic views and how much of my personality was invested in my mind and not my body. I could go on and on.

I cannot prove this scientifically, but somehow I think that my effort toward zen practice made all of this possible, and the only thing I know is that the next change will be weirder than the last one.

I would also like to mention that, even if meditation is ''not christian'', I now feel that my understanding of it is better now than 8 years ago.

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Not long ago in my new apartment after breaking up with a long time girlfriend I had an amazing experience while meditating. The odd thing was I never really meditated back then. Something just told me to do it. I was led on an internal journey that showed me some things about my self. One, don't turn away from uncomfortable thoughts and feelings. Two, don't judge yourself. Three, the ego or this idea of myself is an…

> "Bad" feelings have lost their edge. When I sat with the feeling I discovered there is nothing "bad" about it. [...] With this I have become lighter, freer, happier and more at peace with the experience just as it is, right here, right now. I'd like to give a heads up that this can and may come crashing down[1]. The 'Dark Night of the Soul' is a very real phenomena, and it can happen out of nowhere -- just a normal…

This is really important. GP's experience is beautiful. Yet, I recently read an article[] describing how there's very little help available to people who perhaps meditate too much and end up in spiritual crisis; meditation is sold as this panacea in our western world.

> hackingthelema

Love the user name. Would also love if you read my top-level comment on this thread.

[] https://www.vice.com/en/article/vbaedd/meditation-is-a-power...

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

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Most mornings begin with exercise and cool down. Then scripture and prayer.

This morning, I read Hebrews chapter 12 from the New Testament in the Bible. Afterwards, I prayed about some of the things that stuck out to me. I prayed for my family, and the members of my dev team.

I find this tends to center me on the things that (I believe) are important... thinking more of others than myself. I pray for things I know about and things I don't know about. When relationships at work are stressed, I pray that I could see things from the perspective of others. I pray for humbleness. I pray that I'd be helpful to those around me. For those I'm mentoring, I pray that I'd teach them useful things that will foster growth.

So lotsa prayer I guess.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a strong assertion that we need a God. Rituals, yes, they bind communities. But they need not be tied to morality.

> But they need not be tied to morality. Is morality a monopoly of religion?

Religions usually usurp the role of being the source of morality. It's a necessity for them because that's the only way they can cover up their deep and vast immorality.

You can't be evil if people believe you define what evil means.

This way omicient, omnipotent God can still be most moral being in existence while allowing babies to die of cancer.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

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I took the long, long road to end up back where I started: Mere Christianity.

I've felt the presence of God in the world my whole life, but the way the right wing media lied to me about global warming and other things had me re-evaluate what else I could be misinformed about, so I kept and open mind and studied a ton of religions including: Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Daoism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and some light reading on Shintoism and other minor Asian religious practices. For a while I entertained Pantheism, but I couldn't square the problem of evil.

So I dove into philosophy for a while and the person that seemed to make the most rational sense once you got to the existence of a mind that could know a truth seemed to be Schopenhauer but Russel seemed the most practical. But I could get to the knowability of truth without bootstrapping off of something else. So the choice (or was it?) was radical scepticism or faith. Since I always felt the presence of God in the world, I decided faith in God was the only answer. I rationally knew it could be a delusion, but when trying to run all the logic sine Deo, I came back to the same point anyway: I need to take something by faith.

But knowing that you need to take something by faith isn't the same as feeling that you have the right religion. So I kept an open mind until the truth of it all overwhelmed me all at once.

It took a while for me to get back to stock Christianity, exploring interfaith, Orthodox Christianity, Christian universalism, etc. And I don't know all the answers on the hot button issues, but I believe and I pray and I trust that there are sensible answers for the harder questions, even if I don't have them yet.

Anyway, if anyone out there wants to chat about any of this I'm always open to a random email from a friendly HNer :)

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