Page requires js to see images and I didn't feel like making a noscript exception just to read text and see images so I guess I'm moving on. Please, support raw html fallback web!
Guess its a react or angular or vue app.
(mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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Where is it? Can you add a screenshot?
It's the last checkbox in display accessibility settings: https://imgur.com/5mEgihY The one above it is also useful, it brings back the tiny draggable file icons in title bars in apps that edit files.
По-моему это только в Monterey. У меня ещё Big Sur -- но буду знать!
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Windows Metro UI was not well received on the PC platform. But it was genuinely a leap forward in mobile space. It was very futuristic and ahead of its time.
The Metro UI that debuted in Windows 8 was an abomination, it violated many of the design principles of the original Metro. It was born out of Microsoft's fears that Tablets were going to take over everything, but at the same time Microsoft didn't want to invest 100% in a pure tablet experience, viewing the escape hatch to traditional Windows land as being a necessity. Win32 apps were going to be the advantage Window…
No need for tablets when one can use a foldable laptop or 2-1 hybrids, which are quite successful in Europe, including the Surface models.
Now the Android tablets, that is another story altogether.
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It’s amazing to me how much more usable those UIs are. Not to mention how much more performant they’d be than modern Electron garbage. But forget about Mac OS 9, we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore. Doesn’t help that Apple dropped the ball on following their own UI guidelines.
Native Windows - Win32 - still exists, but all the trendy "modern" stuff seems to be avoiding it, probably because the web stuff is easier to find developers for.
I'm no fan of what HTML has turned in to, but Win32 is hard to find developers for because it's an atrocious pile of crapola that nobody in their right mind touches with a barge pole if they can possibly avoid it. Even Microsoft don't use it anymore, except of course, all the places they do still use it because they never bothered upgrading their apps.
Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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The Metro UI that debuted in Windows 8 was an abomination, it violated many of the design principles of the original Metro. It was born out of Microsoft's fears that Tablets were going to take over everything, but at the same time Microsoft didn't want to invest 100% in a pure tablet experience, viewing the escape hatch to traditional Windows land as being a necessity. Win32 apps were going to be the advantage Window…
No need for tablets when one can use a foldable laptop or 2-1 hybrids, which are quite successful in Europe, including the Surface models. Now the Android tablets, that is another story altogether.
In retrospect, sure. But back at the time, every tech news outlet was proclaiming the death of the desktop, and that iPads were going to take over the world.
So Microsoft panicked. Windows RT is the end result.
Eventually iPad sales dwindled, it turns out that if you make a really durable product and sell it to everyone, you do end up saturating a market!
Phone screens also got a lot larger, negating some of the need for tablets.
Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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There's a setting to "show shapes of toolbar buttons" or whatever it's called in English. It adds 1px faint grey lines around them. I turned it on the day I got my M1 mac. Doesn't help with the fact that the icons on these buttons are drawn as if there's no pixel grid and so are a blurry mess, but better than nothing still.
> Doesn't help with the fact that the icons on these buttons are drawn as if there's no pixel grid and so are a blurry mess Are you using a MacBook by any chance? Out of the box the Air and 13” Pro are set to render to a higher resolution than the panel, which is then non-integer scaled down. So everything is just sort of fuzzy.
The new MBP with M1 Max. They do look okayish on the built-in display. You can still see the fuzzy edges if you look at them long enough. But I'm using mine with a non-retina monitor and it shows these fuzzy edges such that you can't ignore them.
Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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Have you seen how unnecessarily huge some controls are in the latest macOS redesign?
I'm using Monterey daily, so which ones? The top bar/toolbar is smaller than any windows bar, dock size is fully customizable, menus are normal size I'd say. Rest of space is used by applications, not wasted by system. Coincindetally, none of them are really native. Firefox, jetbrains IDEs, Iterm (well, this one is, but might as well not be since it's just a terminal), Spotify, Slack.
No, don't compare modern OSes to each other, they're all infected with the same disease so this comparison is expected to be bogus. Compare the native controls of macOS Monterey to those of Mavericks (10.9), for example. Or Windows 7.
Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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I'm using Monterey daily, so which ones? The top bar/toolbar is smaller than any windows bar, dock size is fully customizable, menus are normal size I'd say. Rest of space is used by applications, not wasted by system. Coincindetally, none of them are really native. Firefox, jetbrains IDEs, Iterm (well, this one is, but might as well not be since it's just a terminal), Spotify, Slack.
No, don't compare modern OSes to each other, they're all infected with the same disease so this comparison is expected to be bogus. Compare the native controls of macOS Monterey to those of Mavericks (10.9), for example. Or Windows 7.
Windows 7 to Monterey: https://static.kinguin.net/cdn-cgi/image/w=1140,q=80,f=auto/...
The bottom bar is way larger on Windows than on Monterey. There is nothing like the empty top bar on a Monterey as on the control panel window here. Point to mac here.
If you click on "About this mac" you get the same kind of logo that you get in this Windows photo, so they are about equal there.
There's no obnoxious widgets on Mac, at least by default. I don't remember if they were default on 7 (I think they were on Vista, but that's a different animal). I guess half a point to mac?
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Are you a UI Researcher? If you are, your approach to gathering research by rebuking everyone else's opinions seems less than optimal. FWIW I prefer skeumorphic design. Flat design won because it made scaling everything easier. It doesn't need to be this way now that SVG support has become widespread
Tons of people below 40 don't have the same instincts as you do.
And yet I do, and I’m under 40. It’s almost as if people can have different opinions that aren’t dependent on their age.
Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9
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I rarely used Windows, but I remember Trillian was one of the first applications I truly hated for exactly this reason.
It was always not uncommon for Windows apps to apply custom skins to their UIs.
As I recall, none of the behavior was standard; it was more than just a skin.