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1. Please consider using a proper mail client: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients 2. Please consider avoiding Google (and Microsoft, Yahoo and Apple) as your email provider, due to their mass surveillance practices, both for commercial ad targeting and for US government political policing. There are several other reasonable webmail providers, if you really can't give up the web interface.

Basically no desktop client works as well as the gmail web app (especially when it comes to search). I use the mail client on iOS out of principle but still end up opening the gmail app when I actually need to find something. A state actor will have less trouble breaking into a mail server I run, and I don’t really believe too much in the idea that other countries apart from the US are immune to police overreach. Sig…

KMail (on KDE on Linux desktop) search is instant. Pity the Akonadi framework under it needs more love to iron out its bugs. I suffer web GMail only when not at my workstation.

Re: Test your product on a crappy laptop

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If you don't have a crappy laptop in handy, you can test slow connection with Network Link Conditioner (if you have a Mac) and small screens with any browser's responsive design mode too.

Chrome and Firefox (probably others too) Devtools also have network simulators to test slow connection.

Re: Test your product on a crappy laptop

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It's not just developers, and it's not just about speed, it's also designers / UX bods who need to heed this. My decently powered work laptop from job 1 has a fairly rubbish screen, which means that a lot of the subtle hover effects, 1 pixel light grey on lighter grey divisions and skinny fonts either aren't visible or are incredibly difficult to see. A good trick if you're working on a large, hi res screen is to hav…

Will echo this. It’s astounding how bad the worst laptop screens are, and how many machines that you’d think have decent screens don’t (like many Thinkpad models, which used to and still might by default come with some of the worst TN panels I’ve ever seen).

I once had to do some photoshop work on one such machine and it was nigh unusable because many details weren’t or were only barely visible. So while I wouldn’t recommend making a screen like that one’s primary screen, yes absolutely test on it periodically.

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> British soldiers in World War I were equipped with a Brodie helmet, a steel hat designed to protect its wearer from overhead blasts and shrapnel while conducting trench warfare. After its deployment, field hospitals saw an uptick in soldiers with severe head injuries. > Because of the rise in injuries, British command considered going back to the drawing board with the helmet’s design. Fortunately, a statistician p…

I always feel these stories are nonsense, they no one can be that stupid. Then I think about the people I’ve dealt with over past 20 years. And I fully believe these scenarios.

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It's not just performance here: colour grading is really important too. Many years ago I had a fascinating incident with a client. We were building a custom skin for our product for them, and they had quite a striking brand identity that we tried to match. When we showed them what we had built they complained that it was illegible. Eventually, after visiting their office, we found that they were all working on cheap…

Indeed. Buy a crappy 15 year old LCD TV with HDMI and hook it up. Most of the really cheap Chinese models have terrible gamma that means half the colors look the same.

I highly recommend setting (non-HDR) screens to sRGB color mode or at least gamma, to have at least decent color reproduction.

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T500/W500, 4GB of RAM. It's something like 13 years old, and ~$60. It can run almost every website that hasn't been web-dev'ed into oblivion. It balks at anything with memory leaks and inefficient CPU/GPU load. It can run YouTube/Facebook/Twitter (surprisingly, for the last). It can't run https://github.com/

> It can't run https://github.com/ It… what? I don’t know about Facebook, but GitHub is a good deal lighter than YouTube and Twitter. GitHub is one of the extremely few websites developed by a large number of people that aren’t atrociously resource-heavy and JavaScript-dependent.

I meant the very front-page/the landing page/i.e. https://github.com/

It cannot run it at all, because of all the graphics nonsense going on.

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Indeed, I have Outlook, Yandex and Gmail, and Gmail seems to be the worst of them all. I cannot understand all thr praise people give it, is it simply brand loyalty?

It used to be amazing - a pretty full featured mail application, snappy in 2005 on much less sophisticated browser runtimes. It’s relatively a piece of shit now.

Second this, but to elaborate, likely it's because they're using chrome when it runs fast and other browsers when it's not. From my perspective, everything Google does is just an effort to get you stuck in their ecosystem.

Everything about Gmail is very confusing to me; I have no love for Outlook (it's absolutely garbage) but in garbage rankings, Outlook is a bit more functional than Gmail is. Outlook has a more complete business eco-system vision I think than Gmail does, and there is a lot better integration with the other elements of Microsoft's ecosystem than Chrome has. For example, when I attach a Sharepoint/OneDrive doc to an email in Outlook, it offers to let me set the permissions for the recipients automatically. This doesn't make up for Sharepoint/OneDrive's awful permissions handling in general, but this element is convenient at least. (Again, I cannot stress how frustrating it is to even __see__ what permissions someone has for a Sharepoint/OneDrive document as regardless of your screen resolution/browser size, you're confined to a few centimeter width sized window, never mind that sometimes saving just outright refuses to work, and bulk-adding persons is even worse)

Gmail has awful design in many places; I don't like that a simple option like FWD is hidden behind the ... menu. I don't like that selecting an email from the list in gmail results in the menu buttons suddenly expanding. Even worse, the location of the reply button when the menu buttons are contracted is the same as the location of the "Mark as Spam" button when expanded; on browsers that aren't chrome, the display lag is enough that I can move my cursor far faster than the menu buttons expand and what __was__ the reply button location is now the "mark as spam" button location.

I don't like that it takes a good 5+ seconds to load the basic email list on a 100 Mbit connection. I don't like that logging into Gmail logs me into every other Google platform (e.g., YouTube) and I start getting spam about different channels or reminders to "engage" with various channels/social media. I don't like that I have to install a .dpkg for Mac to use Gchat video when other apps (e.g., Telegram, Skype, WhatsApp) are just a regular application that I can remove with drag/drop. I really don't like how "foreign" the Gmail/Google theming is with basically everything on MacOS and even on Android, or how few controls over basic UI functionality I get. (I really struggled to find in the Playstore how to monitor the progress of a download...)

Gmail and Google at large feels like an ecosystem that Google just expects everyone to buy into regardless of the platform/experience, and I truly cannot understand their intended way of handling the UI most of the time. The underlying methods of categorizing/indexing the information of course is fine, but actually interacting with it is frustrating for me compared to every Google product contemporary. As much as I dislike Outlook, I'd rather use it than Gmail. I'd rather use basically any chat program as opposed to GChat/Whatever it's called now (it's still really bad whatever the new product is called). Even Google itself I find myself fighting with Google's preferred results instead of what I'm actually wanting (without uBlock the first results are tons of ad spam that have nothing to do with the searches, and the first few results are usually some SEO'd result).

There is an "okay" experience with google if you go all in on it, but they certainly seem to bank on the idea that you'll do that in order to get access to Google results. The rest of the ecosystem is so clunky that it's really undesirable to use for me.

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> apps like virus scanners that are resource-intensive and difficult to remove.

My brother bought a premium Lenovo laptop. He's not very computer literate (he's a lawyer).

I cautioned him to run "Add / Remove" programs and remove the McAffee trial and turn on the built-in Windows virus scanner. I told him I'd talk him through it. Of course he didn't.

A year later when I visited him (we live on opposite ends of the country / world depending on the time of year) I saw that he simply uses his computer with giant red warning popping up all the time from McAffee "WARNING YOUR COMPUTER MAY BE UNPROTECTED" and a link to buy McAffee.

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> British soldiers in World War I were equipped with a Brodie helmet, a steel hat designed to protect its wearer from overhead blasts and shrapnel while conducting trench warfare. After its deployment, field hospitals saw an uptick in soldiers with severe head injuries. > Because of the rise in injuries, British command considered going back to the drawing board with the helmet’s design. Fortunately, a statistician p…

That plane with the red Measels spots has become a joke meme on twitter. Here's the Wikipedia page on it to start you off on your deep dive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

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Just see what's on offer at your local thrift shop. I don't recommend garage sales, however. People tend to overvalue their electronics. I tried to buy a radio that was worth maybe $20 from some guy. He wouldn't part with it for less than $150 because it reminded him of his father. That's nice, but I'm not paying $130 for your memories.

Could it be that he was forced to sell it?

Maybe. His wife was standing right there. But I'm still not going to pay $130 for sentimentality that I cannot share.
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