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It definitely can, but it will not be price efficient since you can buy 3090 for 3k$ and that's the price of macbook pro with single m1 max chip.
Hypothetical mac minis with m1 max might be of interest in that regard.
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Once asahi is stable, I would seriously consider buying a MacBook to use as my daily driver
The final element of my decision to buy my first MacBook (after being very anti-Apple for years) was the existence of Asahi.
Is there a way to run Asahi as a VM as native ARM yet an M1 Macs?
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The final element of my decision to buy my first MacBook (after being very anti-Apple for years) was the existence of Asahi.
Are you already using Asahi on it? Would love to hear/read (if you've written it somewhere else) some feedback about your experience as I'm considering this path as well. A dual-boot would be most excellent! Is there a way to run Asahi as a VM as native ARM yet an M1 Macs?
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The rpi4 has some power management via the mailbox interface to the videocore, but it's just hacked on to the side and is more of an example of how not do things IMO. Particularly how it's exposed to user space is real gross (basically raw mailbox calls). It's closer to the primitives that psci or acpi would be papering over.
It's honestly a bit amusing how many people have been doubting how good Asahi can get without official support, but then you look at "officially supported" platforms like Raspberry Pi and so much stuff is barely held together with string and kernel forks... Honestly, those Broadcom chips are crazier to support than th M1s, and the rPi foundation don't exactly have much of an upstream-first reputation... so I'm quite…
https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/19
A huge number of the use-cases that people were excited about ended up being "low-power device to connect X usb device to network" (whether that's storage devices, cameras, whatever) and it kinda killed a lot of the utility for a long time.
And yeah I know the "official" purpose was as a low-power system for schools, but the first gen also had reliability problems due to the full-size SD cards being unsupported in their slow and tending to warp a little bit with sustained warm-ish temperatures and questionable power adapters people were using, so they weren't even something I'd really want to administer, the reliability wasn't there.
I know a lot of these have been fixed over time in various fashions (the microSD card doesn't cantilever out into open air, so it doesn't tend to warp as much, and people have figured out better adapters, etc) but the early experience was rough and the software issues were exacerbated by Broadcom's high level of secrecy with their documentation. And unlike Asahi, there wasn't the drive to "figure it out" and write your own implementation/documentation - just as an outsider it seems like the existence of documentation (even if nobody outside the foundation could see it) killed the drive to reverse-engineer it. Why go to the effort ifthe documentation exists, type thing.
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well, truth is Apple MacBook Air 13 with 16 GB of RAM is listed at € 1.429 on the Italian Apple web site. My sister bought a Lenovo thinkbook with a Ryzen 7, 16 GB of RAM (upgradable up to 32) for € 729 My 3D artist friend an Asus ROG 14 with an NVidia GPU and 32GB of RAM for € 1.780 and he's using it to render complex scenes. Does the increase in performance justify the ridiculous price? It doesn't, in my opinion. A…
So your 3D artist friend got a 1-pound-heavier machine with a plastic build that still gets beat in a single-core CPU benchmark, and he payed extra for that privilege. Let me know how it goes when he drops it. Not to mention the unusable trackpad and keyboard, and the lack of video camera. Or even the fact that this machine gets super hot and loud, while an air doesn't even have fans.
M1 Macs can't do what that laptops does.
Simple as that.
People are not stupid, that might surprise you, but people use their money for the best, usually.
> Not to mention the unusable trackpad and keyboard
Have you ever heard of a device called "mouse"?
My friend uses another device entirely, it's called "WACOM CINTIQ PRO TOUCH 32"
because he cares about eronomics in his job, specific to his job, he doesn't need to show off with his friends.
> and the lack of video camera
are you familiar with the concept of a working machine?
> Or even the fact that this machine gets super hot and loud
have you ever thought that people don't care about it, because they are working and their job is not making less noise possible?
that's a feature only if your job requires absolute silence, rendering at X minutes per frame is not one of them.
People just don't care.
It's like saying that your washing machine is noisy.
Do you stare at it while it washes your underwear?
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Love the work! One request though, could future progress reports include a little bit about the work being done for OpenBSD also? I know there is someone on the team who is working on the porting effort to Linux, but is also working on OpenBSD concurrently. Thank you!
Request noted! I'll try to loop in Kettenis to write a section for the next one :)
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What do you sacrifice if you get e.g. an Asus ROG Strix G15 ? It is benchmarking pretty close to the M1 Pro, and you can get it for around $1800.
Weight and real world battery life would be two things. Almost certainly build quality. The screen almost certainly isn't as nice. Even if the overall 'macro' bench marks are the same, it almost certainly won't beat the Macbook in day to day 'micro benchmarks' I care about like time to open a new terminal, time to run npm install, time to wake when I open the lid, time from login to watching Netflix, time to search t…
Yeah! I feel like I have been needing a word for that for sometime.
Never had a mac, but surprisingly I have the same exact experience with my IT_managed_Dell+Windows+Antivirus vs my 6yo thinkpad with linux (even months of uptime)
even plain process spawning from powershell is slow, that AV is just hell.
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So your 3D artist friend got a 1-pound-heavier machine with a plastic build that still gets beat in a single-core CPU benchmark, and he payed extra for that privilege. Let me know how it goes when he drops it. Not to mention the unusable trackpad and keyboard, and the lack of video camera. Or even the fact that this machine gets super hot and loud, while an air doesn't even have fans.
it's not plastic. M1 Macs can't do what that laptops does. Simple as that. People are not stupid, that might surprise you, but people use their money for the best, usually. > Not to mention the unusable trackpad and keyboard Have you ever heard of a device called "mouse"? My friend uses another device entirely, it's called "WACOM CINTIQ PRO TOUCH 32" because he cares about eronomics in his job, specific to his job, h…
And vice versa. Try using it for hours just on battery.
>Have you ever heard of a device called "mouse"?
Then you can't use it on your lap, need a bigger desk, etc.
>are you familiar with the concept of a working machine?
Are you familiar with the concept of online meetings ? Or do you work as a hermit ?
>because they are working and their job is not making less noise possible?
Not to mention audio people that do require that, but I'm sure your coworkers wouldn't appreciate the fan noise blasting each time you unmute
>Do you stare at it while it washes your underwear?
Do you leave the room when using your computer ?