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Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by xuki »

endorphine wrote: post #155
WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #129

Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…

> This could be extremely useful for security. Maybe even the death of VPNs. If that's true, I wonder if this affects Tailscale's business and how.

This requires a physical cell tower and 5G receiver so it’s not as flexible as running a VPN client on your laptop.

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Post by solarkraft »

GordonS wrote: post #26
ethanpil wrote: post #18

I wonder if this is a product that was built on top of something they needed to use internally. Makes me wonder how Amazon is using this technology for themselves... Anyone care to speculate?

I would guess it's more aimed at use in large factories, warehouses and yards, where WiFi is not going to be practical. I did a stint as a (software) architect for a large Norwegian engineering company, and at the time they were looking at getting a private 4G network setup, as their facilities were absolutely huge. I did a little research, and quite a few mobile operators actually offer private 4G networks for exact…

Could you explain what makes this tech better than Wifi? Does it have better range/deal with interference better?

My impression was that the high speed profile of 5G was basically the same as that of Wifi, with exactly the same issues. Am I wrong/is it better in lower speed modes?

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joewadcan wrote: post #174

Are they using Magma[1]? I couldn't tell from their sparse FAQ[2]. The Magma community is strong and they're making great progress on the open standard. 1 Magma - Facebook built 5G hotspot platform: https://www.magmacore.org/ 2 AWS FAQ - https://aws.amazon.com/private5g/faqs/

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Post by a-dub »

so i'm guessing this means they use 5g in their warehouses for the their robots/cameras/etc and they've turned it into a product?

it's still a little unclear to me when 5g becomes a better option than 802.11. the standard bands are just a little faster than lte (which 802.11 outperforms) and the mmwave high bandwidth stuff requires line of sight with no occlusion. 802.11 seems better all around, it can work at high bandwidth without the line of sight requirements... especially considering that most mobile devices are designed to switch between 802.11 and mobile.

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Post by no_time »

kizer wrote: post #207
no_time wrote: post #189

>Run a smart manufacturing facility >Enable business-critical applications I'm not sure what manufacturing facility are they talking about but at the places I know you will get ridiculed for even entertaining the idea of controlling infrastructure over anything but good old copper or fiber. And they are right.

Why? There are undoubtedly wireless components to the infrastructure's network already. If everything could just beam to a single tower what's the issue?

>undoubtedly wireless components to the infrastructure's network already.

Yeah, the free guest wifi in the meeting rooms. Believe me, out in the field it's all copper and fiber, held together by mountains of cisco switches. The facility in question is an oil refinery.

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Post by fault1 »

KoftaBob wrote: post #103
mfer wrote: post #21

I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

This is a platform AWS is providing to make it easier for those who have private 5G networks to run/maintain those networks. You seem to be interpreting this as "AWS is going to put 5G towers everywhere and smart TVs are going to connect to them to send data they collect!". That's not what this is at all. This is one of the many reasons it's beneficial to read the actual article/post and comprehend the information, r…

Exactly, it's more of a b2c thing. Actually in one of my previous gigs (at a energy company that had oil rigs in very remote areas), they wanted to quicken the provisioning of 5g to some of the places they operate in.

AWS was one of the companies they were negotiating with - I never realized they had not yet announced this service.

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Post by danudey »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #129

Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…

None of this is really what this service is intended for.

If you read the whitepaper, they list examples of what this would be useful for; namely, covering your own space with your own 5G for your own devices.

Deploy it in these areas instead of WiFi:

1. A stadium's remote ad/video/informational displays 2. A logistics distribution hub's stock-tracking robots/systems/handhelds 3. A corporate campus's smart displays or door access systems 4. Oil and gas drilling/processing sites's systems monitoring in remote, non-covered areas

So this isn't about creating a new provider in your local city, but rather about connecting your devices in your space in cases where WiFi is insufficient or overloaded.

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Post by xuki »

turtlebits wrote: post #80
verelo wrote: post #16

I'd love to set this up for my rural community. I've got a good connection but many people have no cell service, no dsl lines, no cable...literally nothing. Until something like starlink is ubiquitous i feel like this could go a long way to solving their problems.

Doesn't look like this will give you phone/SMS service. You have to put in their SIM, so unless you have a dual SIM phone that can intelligently roam, doesn't seem like the right solution.

It can be used in a modem to provide home internet. Also dual SIM phone are easier to find than laying cables.
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