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India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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The discussions around crypto here kind of proves that you cannot use popular opinion in HN to predict the future. People were very negative (and still are) about crypto. Market cap kept proving them wrong year after year and we are here with around $2.6 Trillion and yet people here still think crypto is going to die. It's interesting because in startups, you learn from the first day that you should listen to custome…

Hi, I live in Delhi. New Delhi is one of 11 districts in Delhi.

Not sure if you meant "look at the roads in New Delhi" in a "derogatory" sense, but I'd just like to say that the roads in New Delhi are some of the best roads here.

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Crypto is increasingly looking like a Ponzi scheme to me. I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion on HN but it's no less true. The fact is that blockchain solves a problem for almost nobody. The primary use seems to be to avoid real or threatened government intervention. These uses are largely illegal, by definition (eg bypassing capital controls in China). Now you can argue the morality of such laws but that…

Not unpopular. Programmers who can understand the underlying technology and look beyond the lofty ideological BS of blockchain will immediately know, this will not work in real world scenarios.

I tried to find any company who was using blockchain in any meaningful way. I couldn't find any. All I could find was promotional pieces mentioning what COULD BE DONE with blockchain or a trial that some big name company was CONSIDERING. No updates on the results of those trials or if anyone actually carried out the trial.

Proof-of-worrk blockchain is such a terrible, wasteful and bad concept that anyone who has ever worked with any database would know it's not even close o being useful.

Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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post #144

The discussions around crypto here kind of proves that you cannot use popular opinion in HN to predict the future. People were very negative (and still are) about crypto. Market cap kept proving them wrong year after year and we are here with around $2.6 Trillion and yet people here still think crypto is going to die. It's interesting because in startups, you learn from the first day that you should listen to custome…

Hi, I live in Delhi. New Delhi is one of 11 districts in Delhi. Not sure if you meant "look at the roads in New Delhi" in a "derogatory" sense, but I'd just like to say that the roads in New Delhi are some of the best roads here.

>>Not sure if you meant "look at the roads in New Delhi" in a "derogatory" sense

I live in Bangalore(Roads here are darn horrible) not Delhi, but instead of looking at this in an "derogatory sense", in all honesty what the person is actually right.

In the overwhelming number of issues facing India- Literacy rates, hunger, infrastructure, social crises, is crypto the biggest issue facing India?

Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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Hi, I live in Delhi. New Delhi is one of 11 districts in Delhi. Not sure if you meant "look at the roads in New Delhi" in a "derogatory" sense, but I'd just like to say that the roads in New Delhi are some of the best roads here.

>>Not sure if you meant "look at the roads in New Delhi" in a "derogatory" sense I live in Bangalore(Roads here are darn horrible) not Delhi, but instead of looking at this in an "derogatory sense", in all honesty what the person is actually right. In the overwhelming number of issues facing India- Literacy rates, hunger, infrastructure, social crises, is crypto the biggest issue facing India?

> in all honesty what the person is actually right

I agree. I was just nitpicking; that roads in New Delhi are actually pretty good. You should look at the roads in rest of the Delhi. The district that I live in (North East) has infrastructure in such stark contrast to New Delhi that it doesn't even feel like the same city tbh.

> is crypto the biggest issue facing India?

It absolutely isn't.

But somebody begs to differ: https://www.livemint.com/news/india/pm-modi-has-a-warning-fo...

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You can seek to block cryptocurrencies but you can't block decentralised protocols. P.S: I'm someone important at LongShort.Finance

You know you could just post a Show HN if you wanted to promote your crypto thingy. No need to be so ridiculous about it.

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> You transfer crypto to my wallet then I, in return, donate my house to you. How would that work? Can't you just not donate the house, after they have given you their crypto?

Well obviously there's going to be a level of trust seeing as recourse is narrower, just like any black market transaction. Maybe even some possibility of extralegal recourse. But people can and therefore will do it.

Not really, nobody buys a house in the black market.

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post #129
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> You transfer crypto to my wallet then I, in return, donate my house to you. How would that work? Can't you just not donate the house, after they have given you their crypto?

Exchange your cryptos in a juridiction abroad where it's allowed (e.g. Singapore), and spend those savings. Problem solved. No ?

How do you exchange your cryptos? You would need an account at a Singaporean bank. Then spend your savings in Singapore, and go back to India empty handed?

Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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post #144

The discussions around crypto here kind of proves that you cannot use popular opinion in HN to predict the future. People were very negative (and still are) about crypto. Market cap kept proving them wrong year after year and we are here with around $2.6 Trillion and yet people here still think crypto is going to die. It's interesting because in startups, you learn from the first day that you should listen to custome…

marketcaps in crypto mean nothing. The universe is full of wash sales, there is not 2.6T of liquidity, a ton of volume is insanely leveraged and amplified through defi pools, and looking at a transaction volume adjusted view of the world, like 99.9% of transactions are valueless gambling OR money laundering. Lets see what happens after the run on tether happens, then we can talk about what the crypto world looks like…

A more accurate statement would be that volume means nothing.

Market cap absolutely does. It's meaningful that of the 18.8mil btc out there, no one is willing to part with one for less than $56k.

Even the Tether concern is somewhat outdated. It now makes up only 4.5% of btc & eth's combined market cap. The mkt cap of btc and eth fluctuates about that much every few days, is it enough to really matter?

Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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Majority of the people who gamble on crypto are doing so only to make a quick buck. They neither know nor care about the ideology, decentralization, removing intermediaries and other such lofty goals of crypto. Most people are in it because they either saw someone making a lot of money or read about it in the media and they also want a piece of it.

It's speculation, plain and simple. If not ban, government needs to regulate it like it regulates other speculative markets.

As for the libertarian goals of removing the central authority - that's not happening.

Re: India seeks to block most cryptocurrencies in new bill, government says

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You're missing the point. It doesn't matter what the technology can do. There is a system that currently exists, and that system will protect itself through regulation. Cryptocurrencies will come within the fold or they will be outlawed. It is irrelevant what is technologically feasible. Governments and state actors don't exist in stasis, any advance in technology will be met with an appropriate response even if that…

>Cryptocurrency fanatics I am a person with nuanced thoughts and opinions, unique and diverse from the rest of the world. >cryptocurrency Let's not confuse zk proofs with cryptocurrency. Powerful, non-cryptocurrency systems that use zk proofs are coming. Alone their power is something we must reconcile, even before combined with distributed, autonomous systems. And that's my point. ZK proofs are astoundingly powerful…

The problem with this sort of reasoning is that it conflates an e.mail or a downloaded movie (or a bag of cocaine) with a cryptocurrency or token. E.mails/movies/dope etc are all basically consumer goods. Read the e.mail, wipe it. Put the coke up your nose, watch the movie.

It only has to go as far as the person you are sending it to, and it's journey is finished, and it's value is realised. Crypto is entirely different in that it has no value unless you can sell it on to another person. That final step is it's weak point.

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