What's stopping me posting "Upvote to dislike this" as a comment on every video I dislike. Cowardly move that's being presented as one thing but really there is a deeper message here.
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Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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#212It makes me curious why HN does not support "dislike". Will "dislike" make HN more informative?
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#213I’m gonna miss dislike jokes (eg, "13 people just want to watch the world burn.")
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#214that's fine, I'll just use "report" instead to express dislike
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#216I wonder what likes and dislikes are even for. They don't generate income for channel owners afaik, nor do they affect the recommendation algorithm for users, also afaik. Only views "matter." Especially if the other half gets hidden now, they should just get rid of the whole thing. It doesn't seem to provide anyone with anything, except useless bandwagoning
Read the article. They specifically say that they will still use "like" and "dislike" to help figure out recommendations for videos to recommend to you, and that the publisher of the video will still see the dislike count, so the creator gets the feedback.
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#217This still seems like a huge disconnect to what people use youtube for vs. what google thinks it should be used for. Google wants youtube to be all network and brands making content. ie. a future version of what TV is now. What actual people want is creator made videos(diy/review/podcast videos and everything else that make youtube wonderful). This disconnect has been happening since google bought youtube and this re…
It seems to me like the disconnect is between your baseless imaginary model of how youtube users behave and the objective analysis of the only party holding enough data to make a sound conclusion.
> only party holding enough data
Correct.
> objective analysis
Assumption.
For all we know, they could be making up bullshit to cover up the real reason; e.g. Disney/Marvel (a source of revenue) or the White House (with the threat of potential regulations or maybe just the political bias of YT staff) or YouTube themselves (YouTube Rewind) are very unhappy that their videos are so unpopular.
Since we can't access their data, we will never know one way or the other. We either have to trust their corporate PR, as you seem to have done, or analyze their possible motives for making a decision that is seemingly user-hostile.
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#218I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…
It's the exact same move that reddit made years ago, and it enabled a new era of online brigading and fake credibility/popularity for content shown on pages.
If you can't see downvotes on content, there is no way of determining how misleading the content may be.
It also disguises cases where a creator may be getting harassed or bullied by others.
The beginning of the end of being able to trust YouTube stats (as if that wasn't already an issue).
Goodbye old useful web... sigh
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#219Let's create a browser extension to record dislikes then!
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#220I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…
as the post itself points out this has nothing to do with dissident voices but with preventing dislike attacks and 'ratio-ing' as is common on websites that have these mechanisms in place. Downvote bombing content if anything distorts discourse and makes it harder to figure out what people actually think. There's a reason this very website caps downvotes at -4. What I find cringeworthy is this keyboard warrior mental…
> maybe pipe down a little bit
like downvoting a cat video is the only type of video being downvoted. If a "tutorial" is bad, people can downvote it. If the next view sees lots of downs, they can avoid it and go to the video saving them time, and no longer rewarding with ad share for a worthless video.
> maybe pipe down a little bit