Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Playstation 5 root keys obtained

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

211–220 of 359 posts

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#211

Post by charcircuit »

krzyk wrote: post #191
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I plop down on my couch, pick up the controller, and it just works. Whereas on PC I have to go upstairs, usually switch out my work cables and keyboard/mouse, power up the thing, then fire up my game. Definitely less comfortable than the console experience, but on the other hand, there's games that just don't work on consoles (strategy, text-heavy games, etc). At the moment I play Sekiro on the console and FFXIV on t…

It all depends what one wants. I for one hate using controller, and consoles don't support M+K (ok, xbox does, but not all games do). Playing 3d shooter on controller is just like playing it using arrow keys, possible and I was doing that when I played DOOM (the original). Tried it and hated every minute of it because of inprecise shooting. And strategy games? Moving pointer with controller? RTS? Is there any on cons…

Have you tried gyro aim before? It's on par with mouse.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#212

Post by zaarn »

maccard wrote: post #200
zaarn wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say you'd have to buy a workplace PC with gaming capabilities, there is plenty of opportunities for a PC to be productive outside work and gaming (such as commenting on HN).

I can do all of those things on my phone (and I do!)

Not all things are quite possible on a phone or as comfortable as you could do them on a PC (I couldn't imagine coding on a phone).

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#213

Post by zaarn »

fabian2k wrote: post #210
zaarn wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a 3060, you can simply get a GPU from a few generations back. You can get a Vega 56 for about 300€ which will play most games in high quality settings without any issues. Same for all other components, it's no longer true that you need current-gen technology to be able to play with Graphics put on High.

That's still 3/4 of the price of a new console for a used 4 year old GPU. And you still won't be able to match the graphics quality of a PS5 in new games.

> And you still won't be able to match the graphics quality of a PS5 in new games.

And the PS5 won't be able to match the PCs capability of doing productive things when not gaming.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#214

Post by jowsie »

simiones wrote: post #162
melff wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This might not count for XBox users, which can use the controller on their PC. I use PS4 controllers with my PC(linux), pretty sure they work with windows too. What controllers cannot be connected to a PC?

No idea about the PS5, but the PS3 controllers couldn't be used on Windows at least. PS4 controllers can be used, they work out of the box (USB only if I remember correctly?) - played lots of Dark Souls 3 with them on my PC.

I used a DS3 and now a DS4 on my Windows PC for years. They work fine once you install a driver (doesn't even have to be third party, Sony released a DS3 Windows driver, but you can only get it by installing Playstation Now).

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#215

Post by salamandersauce »

viraptor wrote: post #115
haunter wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Cheaper than a gaming PC. Of course it depends on your setup but for the same price ($500 MSRP) it would be hard to build a decent rig that plays the current gen new games perfectly - It just works. Games can have bugs but no hassle with installation, drivers etc. Games are more or less better optimzed because all the devs are working on the same hardware. No 100s different CPU and GPU. And one operating system - E…

> Cheaper than a gaming PC They're subsidised by the game prices. You still pay for it in the end. > Home entertainment system. Youtube, Netflix, blurays etc. You can use a PC in the same way. If you position it well, you can even have a dual purpose work/entertainment PC.

You really don't pay more for games or certainly don't have to. Farcry 6 is $60 on PS5 and it's $60 on PC, same with Forza Horizons 5 and as far as I'm aware pretty much every new release. PSN and Xbox Live run similar sales to Steam and often the same games go on sale for the same price at the same time. Plus sometimes there is very good deals at retail or on the used market that just have not existed as an option for PC gamers for like 15 years.

It is also a huge kinda expensive PITA to setup a PC to handle Blu-rays and do Netflix and YouTube as well as a console. UHD drives are not cheap and you need paid software like PowerDVD to actually watch the disc. Getting a good remote interface is tough and when swapping between games, blurays and Netflix/YouTube and games requires entering mouse land. On console its all designed to be used from the couch and works well that way and you can easily get a compatible remote for $20-30 if your TV's doesn't work over HDMI CEC.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#216

Post by Toutouxc »

krzyk wrote: post #191
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I plop down on my couch, pick up the controller, and it just works. Whereas on PC I have to go upstairs, usually switch out my work cables and keyboard/mouse, power up the thing, then fire up my game. Definitely less comfortable than the console experience, but on the other hand, there's games that just don't work on consoles (strategy, text-heavy games, etc). At the moment I play Sekiro on the console and FFXIV on t…

It all depends what one wants. I for one hate using controller, and consoles don't support M+K (ok, xbox does, but not all games do). Playing 3d shooter on controller is just like playing it using arrow keys, possible and I was doing that when I played DOOM (the original). Tried it and hated every minute of it because of inprecise shooting. And strategy games? Moving pointer with controller? RTS? Is there any on cons…

Okay, valid, here's your "play-on-pc" pass. :)

> Playing 3d shooter on controller is just like playing it using arrow keys, possible and I was doing that when I played DOOM (the original). Tried it and hated every minute of it because of inprecise shooting.

That's true, but there'a a similar argument to be made about movement -- controllers use an analog stick for movement (or steering) and at least for me (PlayStation gang) it's always a weird feeling only being able to control my character in a binary way (moving/not moving) by typing letters. It's not as game breaking as not being able to aim properly, but it always feels like I'm doing it the wrong way.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#217

Post by rovek »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Cheaper for sure but the underlying complexity is completely hidden on consoles. There are many justifications for why PCs "can be simple" if you just buy pre-built, but that only solves your problem for an unspecified amount of time.

With a console, you buy the latest one and play the games until there's a new one (in the case where money is no object). You never have to worry about settings or optimisation, it just works. You also know exactly when your hardware is out of date because there's a new generation console.

Personally I'm a PC gamer, I currently run an RTX 3070 and I still wonder whether my CPU or RAM are limiting performance because I'm not getting the performance I expected (but wasn't guaranteed by any single vendor for my custom build). This is a problem I can solve, but it would be worth it to me to pay someone else to deal with it because I just don't have the time/inclination.

Maybe I should buy a console...

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#218

Post by Nursie »

gigatexal wrote: post #192
SirHound wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe consoles are indeed cheaper because 1. they can be sold at a loss (whether or not they actually are now, they have been historically) as the manufacturers make that back on games 2. they bulk order components and package/market them as a single piece. I much prefer gaming on consoles because I can't be bothered with all the mental overhead that comes with PC gaming. Like most of us I don't have much time. I…

Can you use a keyboard and a mouse with a console yet?

For text entry, sure. For all games, not really - some game manufacturers would like competition to stay 'fair' and stick to controllers.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#220

Post by owaislone »

Sebb767 wrote: post #195
me_me_me wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have GTX 970, in drivers section of Nvidia its in legacy category. I dont really see the issue of suboptimal experience to worry about. Modern games autodetect optimal options to play out of the box.

You still have the problem of maintaining an OS, installing the games and possible downtimes when something breaks on the windows side. Plus, you still have to worry whether your hardware is sufficient to play it fluidly at all times. On a console, someone tested that for you and ironed out the edge cases. I'm not a console gamer, but I can see the appeal.

Exactly. I used to play games all the time as a teenager on my PC and managing the PC was actually fun but since I started working, I just don't have the time to think about drivers, updates, viruses, anti-viruses, upgrading the graphics and all that stuff.
Post reply on HN